Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:50:45 -0400
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From: Christopher Suznovich <snuz**At_Symbol_Here**MAC.COM>
Subject: Re: REACH reaches US House
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 In this case the as with what we see with the background on many chemicals, there is not enough data to make such determinations.  There is pretty good amount of of description about the cyanide- it container and about where it it being kept- for the latter (lake drop)  only the month and that no  life preserver was given. Additional detail is needed like what clothing was being worn by the person, how far out from shore were they dropped, can they swim, were there any rescue boats in the immediate vicinity, etc.   Even then, this comparison is like relating apples and peanuts because chemical toxicity  id based upon generally the mg of the chemical per kg of body mass, whereas the survival in frigid waters is in minutes based upon water temperature, persons weight, clothing, etc.


From: Alan Hall <ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**MSN.COM>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:09:54 -0600
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et al,
From one of my stock lectures on risk:  "Which is more toxic?  Cyanide or water?"  Of course, usually everyone pipes up with "Cyanide, of course."  So then I ask:  "Suppose the cyanide is in a tightly closed proper container and sitting in a functioning, properly designed and maintained exhaust hood, OR you are dropped with no life preserver from a helicopter into the middle of Lake Erie in January.  Now which is more dangerous, the cyanide or the water?"
Alan H. Hall, M.D.

Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:02:15 -0700
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Damn good think sunlight isn’t a chemicals or we’d all have to walk around with umbrellas! J

Russell Vernon, Ph.D.

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On July 22, U.S. Rep. Bobby L. Rush, chair of the Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection, and Rep. Henry A. Waxman, chair of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, introduced H.R. 5820, the Toxic Chemicals Safety Act of 2010 <>  (pdf).

The Toxic Chemicals Safety Act of 2010 would amend the Toxic Substances Control Act of 1976 to ensure that the public and the environment are protected from risks resulting from chemical exposure. The bill:

For EPA, the bill establishes an expedited process to reduce exposure to persistent, bioaccumulative, and toxic substances, allows exemptions for chemicals that are already known to be safe, directs the agency to address exposures in "hot spot" locations and to engage in international efforts to control dangerous chemicals.

According to the measure, EPA actions will be transparent, open to public comment, and subject to judicial review, without unreasonable procedural burdens.


Comment – This is the US version of the EU REACH legislation.  It is supported in the Senate by a broad coalition of Senators, led by Sen Feinstein.





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