Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 08:37:37 -0700
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From: Eric Clark <erclark**At_Symbol_Here**PH.LACOUNTY.GOV>
Subject: Re: flammable cabinet question
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This issue was brought up just last week during the quarterly safety 
committee meeting.  People find it inconvenient to hold the spring-loaded 
doors open to the flammable cabinet while placing or retrieving gallon 
sized bottles of liquids - especially since the bottom of the door is 
slightly higher than you can hold with your foot.  Lots of work-arounds 
were discussed.  At this point all I can add to the discussion is that 
MaryAnn's not the only one who's noticed that unintended negative 
consequence resulting from a safety regulation.   

Eric Clark, MS, CCHO, CHMM 
Safety & Compliance Officer
Los Angeles County Public Health Laboratory

>>> "Yaeger, Mary Ann"  11/5/2010 5:24 AM >>>
We have had chemicals dropped a few times because of the self closing 
doors.  Has anyone else had this problem?  In trying to keep the door 
open, or not realizing how close the door is  people have bumped the door 
pulling out the chemical and dropped the bottle.  Our older cabinets are 
not self closing and we don't have a problem with the doors being left 
open.  I prefer those that are not self closing.


MaryAnn Yaeger, MS
Supervisor of Laboratory Services,
Chemical Hygiene Officer
Wesley College
120 N. State Street
Dover DE 19901
Ph. 302-736-2389
Fax 302-736-2301

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question

State and local codes will vary so you should consult your local or state 
fire marshal's office.   For example, it is my understanding that 
California requires self-closing doors.  The major US manufacturers sell 
both manual and automatic door models, so there is obviously no federal 

Given the obvious safety advantages of automatic door closers, the 
question should be why one would wish to defeat a safety feature that is, 
at best, a trivial annoyance.  I strongly endorse their use whenever 

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On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Bradley, Shelly wrote:

Are self-closing doors required on flammable cabinets? (Specifically those 
under fume hoods)
If not, are there any restrictions on removing closers from flammable 
cabinet doors as long as the door latches?


Shelly Bradley
Instrumentation Specialist
Laboratory Development Assistant
Campus Chemical Compliance Director
Chemistry Department
Hendrix College
Conway, AR 72032
(501) 450-3812

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