Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 13:25:34 +0000
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From: "Peifer, Patricia" <Patricia.Peifer**At_Symbol_Here**WESTPHARMA.COM>
Subject: Re: flammable cabinet question
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Yes!  We had an entire 4 L bottle of methylene chloride dropped and broken because of someone struggling with a self-closing door.   I too prefer the doors which are not self closing.  Like at your facility, we have not had p roblems with people leaving the doors open. 

Pat Peifer

Health, Safety and Training Team Leader

West Pharmaceutical Services

101 Gordon Drive

Lionville, PA  19342


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We have had chemicals dropped a few times because of the sel f closing doors.  Has anyone else had this problem?  In trying to keep the door open, or not realizing how close the door is  people have bumped the door pulling out the ch emical and dropped the bottle.  Our older cabinets are not self closin g and we don’t have a problem with the doors being left open.  I prefer those that are not self closing.


MaryAnn Yaeger, MS

Supervisor of Laboratory Services,

Chemical Hygiene Officer

Wesley College

120 N. State Street

Dover DE 19901

Ph. 302-736-2389

Fax 302-736-2301

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State and local codes will vary so you should consul t your local or state fire marshal's office.   For example, it is my u nderstanding that California requires self-closing doors.  The major U S manufacturers sell both manual and automatic door models, so there is obviously no federal requirement.

Given the obvious safety advantages of automatic doo r closers, the question should be why one would wish to defeat a safety fea ture that is, at best, a trivial annoyance.  I strongly endorse their use whenever feasible.

Best wishes,

Rob Toreki

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On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Bradley, Shelly wrote:

Are self-closing doors required on flammable ca binets? (Specifically those under fume hoods)

If not, are there any restrictions on removing closers from flammable cabinet doors as long as the door latches?

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Shelly Bradley
Instrumentation Specialist
Laboratory Development Assistant
Campus Chemical Compliance Director
Chemistry Department
Hendrix College

Conway, AR 72032
(501) 450-3812

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