Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:19:27 -0800
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From: Dave Einolf <dave**At_Symbol_Here**ENDEAVOUREHS.COM>
Subject: Re: ACS accreditation of undergraduate programs
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I may be a bit biased, but as a long time employer of chemists, I would 
take someone who got a BS over a BA in a heartbeat (and I have a BA).  
If your daughter is 100% certain that she'll get in to Med school, then 
who cares what coursework she takes (I've seen Classics majors get in).  
However, if she ends up looking for a job later, she'll regret the BA.  
If she really likes Bio, she should take a summer program. 

Just my 2 cents...

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Smallbrock, Margaret A.
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ACS accreditation of undergraduate programs


ACS accreditation is very interesting. I currently work at a school with 
the accreditation for a BS in Chemistry. There are classes that are 
required for accreditation and there are classes that are optional that 
fit into the program to fulfill the requirements. What I would do is see 
if ACS will tell you what is required and then you can talk to the 
school to see their rational for offering the limited classes. Sometimes 
it is just the field area of the professors that determines the classes 
taught; other reasons may be that the classes will not make because of 
insufficient enrollment. There are a lot of rules for ACS accreditation 
so I would talk to both parties and get the biggest picture you can.

Good luck,


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Stacy Bucherl
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:35 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] ACS accreditation of undergraduate programs

Sorry this is a bit off topic, but a lot of you work in higher education 
and I could use your help. 

My daughter's college choice was primarily driven by finding a school 
that offered an ACS accredited BS in biochemistry.  At the last moment, 
she switched from school A to B (school B offered a full ride). On 
arrival at school B, she discovered that their particular ACS 
biochemistry program is so rigidly chemistry-focused that it only allows 
3 bio classes. After several discussions with her adviser, she switched 
to the BA in biochemistry, which gives her room to study the bio part of 
the degree.
Daughter is likely going to med school and she wants to do research. 

I talked to ACS to gain an understanding of the accreditation process. 
Do any of you have experience in developing the ACS accreditation 
curriculum for your school? I would like to have a discussion with 
School B to try to understand their rationale to minimize bio from the 
biochem degree, but don't know where to start.

Advice? Suggestions?


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