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From the information I gather in the article the machine shop was dedicated
to the laboratories, as far as I'm concerned it is a laboratory.  As far as
placing blame, this was not a graduate student, a phd or an employee, this
was an undergrad and by the very definition someone taking their first steps
towards becoming a scientist.  These steps should never, under no
circumstance, ever take place unsupervised especially with machining
equipment (not to exclude methyl-ethyl-bad-stuff).  With that being said, I
do place blame, on the professor who authorized the student to have a key,
the admin who gave the key and the EHS professional who allowed this to all
take place under their watch, and this blame is criminal.

AG


On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Secretary, ACS Division of Chemical Health
and Safety  wrote:

> From: fred.simmons**At_Symbol_Here**srs.gov
> Date: April 15, 2011 7:25:16 AM EDT
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 8 Re: [DCHAS-L] Yale student killed in chemistry
> laboratory accident/ A Call for a broad perspective on safety
>
>
> When I was in school I had the lathe, drill press and other machine shop
> tools in my laboratory along with all of the traditional chemistry lab
> equipment.  I fail to see the difference here.  Whether you call this a
> lab or a machine shop it was a part of here "Chemistry Lab" environment and
> the distinction is surely irrelevant to her friends and family.
>
> Fred Simmons
> Savannah River Nuclear Solutions
>
>
>
>
>




From the information I gather in the article the machine shop was dedicated
 to the laboratories, as far as I'm concerned it is a laboratory.=A0 As
 far as placing blame, this was not a graduate student, a phd or an employe
e, this was an undergrad and by the very definition someone taking their fi
rst steps towards becoming a scientist.=A0 These steps should never, under 
no circumstance, ever take place unsupervised especially with machining equ
ipment (not to exclude methyl-ethyl-bad-stuff).=A0 With that being said, I 
do place blame, on the professor who authorized the student to have a key, 
the admin who gave the key and the EHS professional who allowed this to all
 take place under their watch, and this blame is criminal. 

AG



On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:
22 AM, Secretary, ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <secretary**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org><
/span> wrote:

Fro
m: fred.simmons**At_Symbol_Here**s
rs.gov
Date: April 15, 2011 7:25:16 AM EDT
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 8 Re: [DCHAS-L] Yale student killed in chemistry
 laboratory accident/ A Call for a broad perspective on safety


When I was in sch
ool I had the lathe, drill press and other machine shop tools in my laborat
ory along with all of the traditional chemistry lab equipment.=A0 I fail to see the difference here.=A0 Whether you call thi
s a lab or a machine shop it was a part of here "Chemistry Lab" e
nvironment and the distinction is surely irrelevant to her friends and fami
ly.=A0

Fred Simmons=A0
Savannah Ri
ver Nuclear Solutions=A0




 

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