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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:44:40 -0700
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From: scrooks**At_Symbol_Here**PPEPPRO.COM
Subject: Re: Yale student killed in chemistry laboratory
accident/prerequisite to commenting about "blame"
I implore that anyone who considers him or herself an "EHS
Professional" to know where to fix accountability and to understand th
e proper role of the safety professional. I suggest Dan Pet
ersen as one author. Please pay particularly close attention to
the material on authority, responsibility and accountability. Al
though not written specifically for educational institutions, the role of t
he organization's safety person is the same and is important
for us to understand.
Steve Crooks, MS, CIH, CSP
President & Sr. Consultant
People, Property & Environmental Protection, Inc.
919.368.7976
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Subject: Re:
[DCHAS-L] 8 Re: [DCHAS-L] Yale student killed in chemistry
laboratory a
ccident/ A Call for a broad perspective on safety
From: Andrew Gross <
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Date: Fri, April 15, 2011 9:11 am
To:
DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDUFrom th
e information I gather in the article the machine shop was dedicated to the
laboratories, as far as I'm concerned it is a laboratory. As far as
placing blame, this was not a graduate student, a phd or an employee, this
was an undergrad and by the very definition someone taking their first step
s towards becoming a scientist. These steps should never, under no ci
rcumstance, ever take place unsupervised especially with machining equipmen
t (not to exclude methyl-ethyl-bad-stuff). With that being said, I do
place blame, on the professor who authorized the student to have a key, th
e admin who gave the key and the EHS professional who allowed this to all t
ake place under their watch, and this blame is criminal.
AG
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Secretary, ACS Di
vision of Chemical Health and Safety
<secretary**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org> wrote:
Date: April 15, 2011 7:25:16 AM EDT
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 8 Re: [DCHAS-L] Yale student killed in chemi
stry laboratory accident/ A Call for a broad perspective on safety
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When I was in school I had the lathe, drill press and other
machine shop tools in my laboratory along with all of the traditional chemi
stry lab equipment. I fail to see the difference here. Whether you call this a lab or a machine shop it was a pa
rt of here "Chemistry Lab" environment and the distinction is surely irrele
vant to her friends and family.
Fred Simmons
Savannah River Nuclear Solutions
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