Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:18:04 -0400
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From: "Majewski, Donna - West Lafayette, IN"

Subject: Re: Hydrofluoric acid burns
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We’ve ordered 2.5% w/w Calcium Gluconate Gel from Pharmascience, Inc (Montreal, Canada) 1-800-363-8805.


Also, some of the “first aid” treatments in the Honeywell program go beyond basic first aid.  I suggest working with a clinic/nurse to provide additional training for “responders.”  When we had fluorine labs on site, we had a nurse provide this additional “first aid” training (for all of the employees that worked in these labs) at least 3 times per year.  Setting up the eye irrigation systemand setting up a nebulizer are not typical first aid treatments.  They could get things started while waiting for help to arrive.


NOTE:  I haven’t had to keep an HF response kit for the last 5 years so I hope the contact info above is still good!


Good luck! 

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Donna Majewski

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West Lafayette, IN 47906

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Laster, Willard (Lincolnshire)
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hydrofluoric acid burns


Can you provide supplier information for the Mg Gluconate salve?  I did a quick internet search and did not getany hits.  We work with HF in small quantities and I would like to have it available to the analysts.


Willard Laster                                                   

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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hydrofluoric acid burns


HF contact is not initially uncomfortable until many hours after contact.  EVERY LAB in which HF is regularly used (in a hood) should have magnesium gluconate salve available in a container attached to the hood.  Use the salve for any suspect skin contact, then seek medical attention for soakingin magnesium gluconate solution.   Many institutions prohibit working alone (e.g., evening/off hours) with HF. 

Preferably wear double gloves with gauntlets covering the cuff of the lab coat.  Do not allow exposed wrists.  Use proper technique for removing gloves to prevent skin contact. For routine, higher volume use, wear rubberized sleeves over the lab coat sleeves.  Eye/face protection is essential.

Prevention of contact is much easier than post-contact treatment.

David Haugen
Argonne National Laboratory

From: "Ernest Lippert" <ernielippert**At_Symbol_Here**TOAST.NET>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:24:00 PM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Hydrofluoric acid burns

What is the current best protocol forthe treatment of hydrofluoric acid burns? Has the Honeywell publication "Recommended Medical Treatment for Hydrofluoric Acid Exposure", Ver. 1.0, May 2000 been superseded?


Ernest Lippert


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