From: "Shiel, Dan" <dan.shiel**At_Symbol_Here**PFIZER.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video from UCSD
Date: March 30, 2012 1:24:26 PM EDT
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I totally agree with this sentiment and I think the video is useful for that reason. If we all took a strict, absolute interpretation of the applicable regulations , then there would be very few lab denizens ever wearing safety glasses and rather they would all rather be wearing chemical splash goggles, but I don’t believe experience or risk assessment supports this direction.


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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Hadden, Susan [JRDUS]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video from UCSD


I, too, liked the video, even though it showed safety glasses and not goggles. Personally, I think goggles are a safer choice. But, in my 29 years of working in the industrial research environment, I have never seen goggles routinely used. It is hard enough to get people to wear their safety glasses with side shields all the time, let alone goggles. Safety glasses are better than nothing.


So, like Wayne, I think this video helps move things in the right direction. If it encourages more people to wear safety glasses, someday maybe we can get them into goggles.


I plan to show this at my Lab Safety committee meeting next week. We will talk about how goggles are a better choice but this video still has a great message.


From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Wood
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video from UCSD


Please forgive me for disagreeing with the lab safety guru, but in our neck of the woods it is hard enough to get lab personnel to wear safety glasses, let alone wear goggles.  Here we require goggles when there is a significant splash hazard but for light-to-moderate work in your typical research lab we require safety glasses with side shields.   


Unlike Jim who feels the producers are “totally wrong”, IMHO this video can help us increase the use of eye protection. Bravo and thank you UCSD!




Wayne Wood | Associate Director, University Safety (EHS) – Directeur Adjoint, Direction de la pr=E9vention (SSE), Services universitaires | McGill University | 3610 McTavish Street, 4th floor | Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3A 1Y2 | Tel: (514) 398-2391 | Fax: (514) 398-8047



From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of JAKSAFETY**At_Symbol_Here**AOL.COM
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video from UCSD


It does not matter what type of lab you are in.  If the hazard is chemical splash or chemical droplet, the only appropriate eye protection is either unvented or indirectly vented cover goggles (chemical splash goggles.


See 29CFR1910.132, 29CFR1910.133, and ANSI Z-87.1 


Either you want to follow the federal and California regulations or you want to be in violation (and we all know what happens in CA if you do that)!


While I applaud what is an otherwise excellent video, this is a huge disservice to getting everyone to do what is required by law. 


Please, Please. Please. Edit out the safety glasses for protection against chemical splash.  Without any equivocation, I believe they are totally wrong.   ... Jim


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