From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**CS.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Facial hair and fire?
Date: January 24, 2013 8:57:05 PM EST
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And remember what killed the Yale lab student.  If her hair could get caught in a lathe, even more so a beard.  I wouldn't hire this guy based on your comments not only because this is a safety hazard, but because he is demonstrating a decided lack of imagination, visualization and failure to understand combustion on a practical level.
 
And it sounds like this turning off of basic mental skills is all in the service of vanity.
 
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
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From: Eileen Mason <lnmsn8**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Facial hair and fire?

Perhaps you could show the PI videos of Michael Jackson's noted Pepsi
commercial.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:21 PM, McGrath Edward J
<Edward.McGrath**At_Symbol_Here**redclay.k12.de.us> wrote:
> If this person is presenting as an instructor, he is modeling extremely poor
> practice.  Regarding the beard, I don't see how it differs from working with
> shoulder length hair around an open flame (I have had the experience of a
> student with shoulder length hair singeing it as she reached over a Bunsen
> burner flame-fortunately, without injury-just a foul odor.)  You are
> absolutely correct in telling him this demonstration as he describes it is
> inappropriate.
>
>
>
> Every so often, I get a science teacher (usually chemistry) whose
> instructional purpose seems to be to dazzle and terrify the students.  My
> response is to request a listing of instructional objectives as tied to the
> state standards.
>
>
>
> Edward J. McGrath
>
> Science Supervisor
>
> Red Clay Consolidated School District
>
> 1502 Spruce Avenue
>
> Wilmington, DE  19805
>
>
>
> (302) 552-3768
>
>
>
> "Fortune favors the prepared mind."  Louis Pasteur
>
> From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Samuella B. Sigmann
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:09 PM
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
> Subject: [DCHAS-L] Facial hair and fire?
>
>
>
> All - Please let me know if anyone out there has had any any experience with
> this situation.
>
> I have a PI who has a full beard (we are talking ZZ Top style beard here).
> He is insistent on doing demos with flames - including fire eating.  Don't
> ask me what chemical principal that is demonstrating.  Yesterday he asked me
> what I thought about doing the classic "money burning" demo where you dip a
> dollar in a 50/50 isopropanol/water mixture that shows how evaporation cools
> the money and prevents the alcohol from burning it,  only he wants to use
> his beard instead of the money.  I am not sure if he was serious or just
> trying to get a response out of me.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions on how to prevent this fellow from burning his
> face off?  In general, I would like to tell him that if the beard stays, he
> cannot work with flames.  Is that an option?  It is so long that he can
> actually tie it up and fold it in on itself, but it is still hanging pretty
> low and could easily catch on fire with a Bunsen burner.
>
> Sammye
>
> --
>
> ***************************************************************************************
>
> Don't always believe what you think.
>
> Samuella B. Sigmann, NRCC-CHO
>
> Lecturer/Safety Committee Chair
>
> A. R. Smith Department of Chemistry
>
> Appalachian State University
>
> 525 Rivers Street
>
> Boone, NC   28608
>
> Phone: 828 262 2755
>
> Fax: 828 262 6558
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