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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Chemical Safety headlines from Google (14 articles)

Date: Jun 10, 2013 09:22 UTC

Author: Secretary, ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <secretary**At_Symbol_Here**DCHAS.ORG>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Acetic Acid & Nitric Acid compatability

Date: Jun 11, 2013 03:15 UTC

Author: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**CS.COM>

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From: Russell Vernon <russell.vernon**At_Symbol_Here**UCR.EDU>

Subject: [DCHAS-L] Acetic Acid & Nitric Acid compatability

Date: Jun 10, 2013 10:51 UTC

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Demystify: 

Dear Learned Ones…

 

Several years ago when confronted with the assertion that we couldn’t store nitric acid and acetic acid together (or nitric acid n a wooden shelf) because they were incompatible I conducted an experiment.

1.    I took glacial acetic acid and added concentrated nitric acid while stirring, anticipating a reaction… nothing happened. It didn’t get hot, cold or have gas evolve

2.    So after reaching a 50:50 mix I began heating while stirring (did I mention this was in a hood with proper PPE and a written procedure way back in the early 1990’s)

3.    I got in boiling and still there was no obvious reaction.

 

4.    Now I added pencil shavings in small amounts in the belief it would catch on fire…

5.    Nothing apparent happened.

6.    So I added more.

 

7.    Finally after 20 minutes mild boiling with concentrated nitric, glacial acetic and wood pieces I squirted just a drop of acetone a definitely got the reaction I expected (flame)

 

Does anyone have a real world experience where nitric acid caused an unwanted reaction with acetic acid or a wooden shelf?

 

Sincerely,

-Russ

 

Russell Vernon, Ph.D.

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