From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Judge denies three Harran defense motions
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:37:21 -0400
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Absolutely, Ralph, that is what should be happening.  But the traditional paperwork session is what will meet the law. And combined with the OSHA requirement for enforcement of the safety rules, it will sort of work OK.   
Your way is the ideal.  And there should be documentation of that follow up, those observations and inspections. 
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062

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From: Ralph B. Stuart <rstuart**At_Symbol_Here**CORNELL.EDU>
Sent: Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Judge denies three Harran defense motions

> And "documented training" means exactly what it says.  Sit down sessions provided by the school or the professor with attendance taken and ideally a short test at the end to provide proof of comprehension. 
I don't entirely agree with this. In my mind, a training program consists not only of a single explanation of the expectations for doing hazardous work, but follow up oversight through observations of the worker and inspections of the work process over time. Otherwise, this process does not demonstrate comprehension, but simply appears to be a transfer of responsibility from the supervisor to the trainee.
The challenge in an academic environment is that the institutional culture is oriented towards education rather than training and there are no expectations for follow up after the final test in the educational setting. This expectations gap is part of the challenge the National Research Council's Task Force on laboratory safety culture is facing.
- Ralph
Ralph Stuart CIH
Chemical Hygiene Officer
Department of Environmental Health and Safety
Cornell University

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