From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 19:36:04 -0500
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As soon as there is an employed teacher or even a custodian in the room, the OSHA labeling and all other occupational standards apply.  Students in most states don't come under OSHA.  Instead, they come under strict liability.  If you don't do even better than the OSHA standards, it is a liability issue.  They not only need the hazcom or lab standard training, they need it more than trained and experienced faculty.
 
Thinking "in" the box is better, the box being one that contains 12 people.
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Creed <kcreed**At_Symbol_Here**STANFORD.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
Sent: Sun, Nov 17, 2013 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia

Greetings All, 

Although the Hazcom/GHS standard does not apply to students, I think there
is some room for 'thinking outside the box' so that we can meet the intent
of the standard and, thus, provide effective, safe communication to
students. 
First: 
From (c) Definitions:  "Label elements" means the specified
pictogram, hazard statement, signal word and precautionary statement for
each hazard class and category." 
Second:  
From (f)(6) Workplace Labeling: "Except as provided in paragraphs
(f)(7) and (f)(8) of this section, the employer shall ensure that each
container of hazardous chemicals in the workplace is labeled, tagged or
marked with either: ...
(ii) Product identifier and words, pictures, symbols, or combination
thereof, which provide at least general information regarding the hazards
of the chemicals, and which, in conjunction with the other information
immediately available to employees under the hazard communication program,
will provide employees with the specific information regarding the
physical and health hazards of the hazardous chemical." 

Third: 
From (f)(7):  "(f)(7) The employer may use signs, placards,
process sheets, batch tickets, operating procedures, or other such written
materials in lieu of affixing labels to individual stationary process
containers,..." 

So, a combination of identifying small containers with at least the name
of the material plus a number or color coded designation that is tied to a
poster/legend/handout that then provides the required labeling elements
for that material (and any other materials requiring the same elements)
may be the most practical and effective.  Although the standard refers to
using batch tickets, etc. for stationary containers, and not very small
containers, I think for our identified need this type of approach is worth
considering.  

We shouldn't miss the opportunity of integrating the hazardous
identification/communication piece into the lab session curriculum such
that students have to actively access and understand the information, as
confirmed by the lab write up or quizzes, etc.  

Also, smart phone access of QR squares, label scans, etc,. that can bring
chemical hazard information to the user/student might be considered as
well.  

Best, 

Kevin 



Kevin Creed

Manager, ChemTracker Program

Stanford University

EH&S

480 Oak Road

Stanford, CA 94305-8007

 

office:  650-723-4767

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-----Original Message-----
From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf
Of Osterby, Meg
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:18 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia

I also need a solution to this issue.  We are a small technical college
and have less than 100 total lab students spread between 3-5 courses each
semester.  We use 60 mL droppers for most lab solutions, since larger
amounts are far more than we would use in years.  Even so, our dropper
bottles are used multiple semesters.  We store them in wooden sleeves on
shelves in the stockroom.  In the past, we've labeled them with the
chemical name or formula and concentration only, since they are so small
there isn't room for much more.  How do we deal with the new labeling
requirements when there isn't physically room on the bottle for such a
detailed label?  Would putting the labels on the wooden sleeves be
sufficient?  (They don't go into the lab with the solutions, however, so
the students using the solutions would never see them.)  I don't see a
solution to this dilemma, since the bottle sizes are so small.

Meg Osterby
Lead Chemistry Instructor
Western Technical College
400 7th St. N.
LaCrosse, WI 54601
osterbym**At_Symbol_Here**westerntc.edu
608-789-4714

"It's  better to be careful 100 times, than to be killed once."  
                                                    Mark Twain



-----Original Message-----
From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf
Of Marlyn Newhouse
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:37 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia

Dear Ones,

We stopped using the smaller bottles and are using 100 mL bottles.  We
attach a test tube with a small pipette for the "dropper".  The label and
test tube are secured with clear packing tape.

Blessings

 Marlyn Newhouse, D.A.
 Associate Professor of Chemistry
 1050 Union University Drive
 Jackson TN 38305

 731-661-5295
 mnewhous**At_Symbol_Here**uu.edu
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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of
Melissa Charlton-Smith [charltonsmith**At_Symbol_Here**WVWC.EDU]
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 7:42 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia

Out of curiosity, for those of you in academia, how are you handling GHS
secondary container labeling in teaching lab situations where the average
freshman student isn't exactly known for their attention to detail?  We
often have a multitude of small dropping bottles with 30 to 50 ml which
becomes a labeling nightmare because of lack of space for labels due to
the small size of the container.

Mel

Mel Charlton-Smith
School of Sciences Chemical Hygiene Officer-NRCC Lab Coordinator, Lecturer
BS-CHO program Department of Chemistry WV Wesleyan College Buckhannon, WV
26201

charltonsmith**At_Symbol_Here**wvwc.edu<mailto:charltonsmith**At_Symbol_Here**wvwc.edu>
304-473-8355

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