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Regardless of whether the HazCom law applies or not to students, coming from industry, I would like to see my newly graduated lab students already know what the OSHA HazCom standard says and have a habit of labeling materials than me having to teach them the law and begin developing their habits=2E Teach them what they need to know to keep themselves and others safe regardless what laws apply or not=2E
Keith Reissig
Industrial Hygienist/Ergonomist
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As soon as there is an employed teacher or even a custodian in the room, the OSHA labeling and all other occupational standards apply=2E Students in most states don't come under OSHA=2E Instead, they come under strict liability=2E If you don't do even better than the OSHA standards, it is a liability issue=2E They not only need the HazCom or lab standard training, they need it more than trained and experienced faculty=2E
Thinking "in" the box is better, the box being one that contains 12 people=2E
Monona Rossol, M=2ES=2E, M=2EF=2EA=2E, Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc=2E
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St=2E, #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
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From: Kevin Creed <kcreed**At_Symbol_Here**STANFORD=2EEDU>
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Greetings All,
Although the HazCom/GHS standard does not apply to students, I think thereis some room for 'thinking outside the box' so that we can meet the intentof the standard and, thus, provide effective, safe communication tostudents=2E First: From (c) Definitions: "Label elements" means the specifiedpictogram, hazard statement, signal word and precautionary statement foreach hazard class and category=2E" Second: From (f)(6) Workplace Labeling: "Except as provided in paragraphs(f)(7) and (f)(8) of this section, the employer shall ensure that eachcontainer of hazardous chemicals in the workplace is labeled, tagged ormarked with either: =2E=2E=2E(ii) Product identifier and words, pictures, symbols, or combinationthereof, which provide at least general information regarding the hazardsof the chemicals, and which, in conjunction with the other informationimmediately available to employees under the hazard communication program,will provide employees with the specific information regarding thephysical and health hazards of the hazardous chemical=2E" Third: From (f)(7): "(f)(7) The employer may use signs, placards,process sheets, batch tickets, operating procedures, or other such writtenmaterials in lieu of affixing labels to individual stationary processcontainers,=2E=2E=2E" So, a combination of identifying small containers with at least the nameof the material plus a number or color coded designation that is tied to aposter/legend/handout that then provides the required labeling elementsfor that material (and any other materials requiring the same elements)may be the most practical and effective=2E Although the standard refers tousing batch tickets, etc=2E for stationary containers, and not very smallcontainers, I think for our identified need this type of approach is worthconsidering=2E We shouldn't miss the opportunity of integrating the hazardousidentification/communication piece into the lab session curriculum suchthat students have to actively access and understand the information, asconfirmed by the lab write up or quizzes, etc=2E Also, smart phone access of QR squares, label scans, etc=2E,=2E that can bringchemical hazard information to the user/student might be considered aswell=2E Best, Kevin Kevin Creed Manager, ChemTracker Program Stanford University EH&S 480 Oak Road Stanford, CA 94305-8007 office: 650-723-4767 cell: 408-529-0724 -----Original Message-----From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED=2ECORNELL=2EEDU] On Behalf
Of Osterby, MegSent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:18 AMTo: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED=2ECORNELL=2EEDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia I also need a solution to this issue=2E We are a small technical collegeand have less than 100 total lab students spread between 3-5 courses eachsemester=2E We use 60 mL droppers for most lab solutions, since largeramounts are far more than we would use in years=2E Even so, our dropperbottles are used multiple semesters=2E We store them in wooden sleeves onshelves in the stockroom=2E In the past, we've labeled them with thechemical name or formula and concentration only, since they are so smallthere isn't room for much more=2E How do we deal with the new labelingrequirements when there isn't physically room on the bottle for such adetailed label? Would putting the labels on the wooden sleeves besufficient? (They don't go into the lab with the solutions, however, sothe students using the solutions would never see them=2E) I don't see asolution to this dilemma, since the bottle sizes are so small=2E Meg OsterbyLead Chemistry InstructorWestern Technical College400 7th St=2E N=2ELaCrosse, WI 54601osterbym**At_Symbol_Here**westerntc=2Eedu
608-789-4714 "It's better to be careful 100 times, than to be killed once=2E" Mark Twain -----Original Message-----From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED=2ECORNELL=2EEDU] On Behalf
Of Marlyn NewhouseSent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 8:37 AMTo: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED=2ECORNELL=2EEDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia Dear Ones, We stopped using the smaller bottles and are using 100 mL bottles=2E Weattach a test tube with a small pipette for the "dropper"=2E The label andtest tube are secured with clear packing tape=2E Blessings Marlyn Newhouse, D=2EA=2E Associate Professor of Chemistry 1050 Union University Drive Jackson TN 38305 731-661-5295mnewhous**At_Symbol_Here**uu=2Eedu
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Melissa Charlton-Smith [charltonsmith**At_Symbol_Here**WVWC=2EEDU]
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] GHS and secondary container labeling in acedemia Out of curiosity, for those of you in academia, how are you handling GHSsecondary container labeling in teaching lab situations where the averagefreshman student isn't exactly known for their attention to detail? Weoften have a multitude of small dropping bottles with 30 to 50 ml whichbecomes a labeling nightmare because of lack of space for labels due tothe small size of the container=2E Mel Mel Charlton-SmithSchool of Sciences Chemical Hygiene Officer-NRCC Lab Coordinator, LecturerBS-CHO program Department of Chemistry WV Wesleyan College Buckhannon, WV26201 charltonsmith**At_Symbol_Here**wvwc=2Eedu<mailto:charltonsmith**At_Symbol_Here**wvwc=2Eedu>
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