From: Peter Zavon <pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] CGA Standards...
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:55:34 -0400
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That figure of $5000 seems rather odd, unless it is a refernce to a standard penalty they seek for copyright infringement.


I just looked at TechStreet (, a source I often use for acquiring current standards, or at least finding out what is the most current version of a standard. 


They are listing CGA P-1 for $147 in printed form or $108 in secure PDF form.  CGA P-9 is being sold at $56 for a secure PDF, $73 in paper, and $85 for paper and PDF together.


Admittedly, $73, or even $56, for a 21 page document (as CGA P-1 is) may seem steep, but as standards go it is not all that bad, and it is certainly nothing near $5000.


And the question was about standards, not the other good stuff that CGA might have.



Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY





From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] CGA Standards...


Unfortunately the CGA also aggressively gaurds the copyright on their publications. The cost for distributing a copy without CGA's permission is $5000.  The CGA has a lot of really good publications, but does not make them readily available to nonmembers.


Todd Perkins


From: Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 11:29 AM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] CGA Standards...




I am wondering whether other academic Chemical Hygiene Officers/EHS employees/etc purchase CGA publications other than the "Safe Handling of Compressed Gases in Containers" (P-1), which is cited in the OSHA Compressed Gas standard.


In particular,  publications which (on the surface) appear they might be applicable to labs are "P-9:  The Inert Gases Nitrogen, Helium, Argon", and "P-12:  Safe Handling of Cryogenic Liquids" or "P-30: Portable Liquid Nitrogen Containers" 


Like numerous standards that come from 'non-governmental consortia' these are expensive; unlike NFPA and some others, it doesn't appear there is 'read only' access on the web.  I hesitate to purchase them due to cost, but if others have found them helpful, I'll bite the bullet..


Many thanks for your comments!

Margaret A. Rakas, Ph.D.
Manager, Inventory & Regulatory Affairs
Clark Science Center
413-585-3877 (p)


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