From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] "labcandy"
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:15:07 -0400
Reply-To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
A good fit for women and eye-candy are two different issues. Safety equipment providers have learned our safety shoes, respirators, eyewear and the like must conform to women's sizes and shapes. If they are in different colors, that's not much of an issue either.
But competition for having the best bling in the science room is out of place. There should be some place in a girl's life where she doesn't have to compete in the looks arena. She gets plenty of that competition every day in other activities.
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President: Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012 212-777-0062
From: Olinger, Patricia L <patty.olinger**At_Symbol_Here**EMORY.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
Sent: Mon, Aug 11, 2014 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] "labcandy"
I guess I really don't understand. They are wearing safety gear and enjoying it. I think it is sad that today, we are saying that this is demeaning. It obviously is not demeaning to them. I see it as their ability to be scientist and yet be able to express themselves instead of being told that they must conform. Are we telling them that to be a scientist we must be "one of the boys"? I would have hoped by now we were past this.
I hated lab coats when I was in the lab. Being 5'10" and thin, they never fit! To have a lab coat long enough the arms were always to long and I had to roll up the sleeves and the waist was hugh! I had a couple tailored.
Recently at the CSHEMA conference one of the vendors had their new line of lab coats. Tailored for women and they came in colors. They looked very professional and best of all they fit. They even had a maternity lab coat. It is about time.
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Science is cool!!!! That's a fact.. It's interesting and creative - and fun!
Science transcends and underpins pretty much everything -.. travel, art & design, music, textiles and clothing, jewellery, architecture, construction, plumbing, electricity, health, cooking, -.
Try to imagine life and where would we be without it-..
I've been thinking about this all weekend. I believe strongly that 'we' need to do more to get the girls' attention about being scientists. And the lab coats and safety goggles bling is great. But the name "labcandy" is too close to "eye candy", in my humble opinion. All girls / young women (and I am the mother of one and used to be one!) want to be "eye candy". So, are we trying to get girls into science so the guys have something better to look at than the old nerd in the white lab coat? I agree with Monona, this is demeaning for the girls. Can't we interest them in science because that's what the world/earth/people/food/etc. is based on?
Thanks for reading my two cents.
Kathy Wall, M.S.
Chemistry Lab Coordinator
Chemistry Adjunct Faculty
Division of Mathematics and Sciences
Waubonsee Community College
Rt 47 at Waubonsee Dr.
Sugar Grove, IL 60554
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