From: Peter Zavon <pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Colorado methanol fire case
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 09:46:08 -0400
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Common sense is that knowledge that is held in common. Science in general is not part of the common knowledge of the US population, so is not part of "common sense."


In my opinion, those who urge others to " use common sense" are saying things equivalent to "be more careful" as a future action in an accident investigation. It is a comforting noise to those uttering it, but offers no guidance or direction to the recipient.



Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY




From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Ernie Lippert
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Colorado methanol fire case


Haven't you noticed. People nowadays are generally stupid. Common sense has somehow escaped as part of our current society. Our parents (in an older time) taught us  common sense.  Where has it disappeared?


Ernest Lippert


From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Leslie Coop
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Colorado methanol fire case


Perhaps someone should ask the school he went to why he wasn't taught chemical safety procedures.




On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Ralph Stuart <rstuartcih**At_Symbol_Here**> wrote:

I was struck the story in this morning's headlines that the Former Colorado Teacher was charged  with four counts of third-degree assault, a Class 1 misdemeanor in the methanol demonstration lab explosion that occurred last month.

This seems much more likely to set a precedent than the UCLA fire, which was based on labor law specific to California. I hope that people who are in Colorado will let us know how this case proceeds, as it's not uncommon for these stories to fall off the press's radar.

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart


Leslie Coop, MS, CCHO, CHMM

Chemical Hygiene Officer/ Stockroom Manager

Willamette University - 900 State Str - Salem, Oregon 97301

lcoop**At_Symbol_Here** - (501) 590-6026

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