From: Eric Clark <erclark**At_Symbol_Here**>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Drinking Fountain in the Lab
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 20:57:09 +0000
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Of course there are alternate uses to consider …

Years ago as an undergraduate chemistry major taking an analytical laboratory course, we used the water from the laboratory drinking fountain as a convenient source for identifying metal ions.  On Monday morning after the water fountain had gone unused for the weekend, the concentrations were quite high for a variety of metals; by Friday the metal concentrations had gone down by about 70%. 



Eric Clark, MS, CHMM, CCHO

Safety Officer, Public Health Scientist III

Los Angeles County Public Health Laboratory



From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Debbie M. Decker
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Drinking Fountain in the Lab


Gotta love a lab designer who doesn’t know anything about labs.


Rip ‘em out.  Make the designer pay for it. They have insurance for these types of “errors and omissions.”


I hope you would have a policy statement somewhere that states “no food and drink in the lab.”  If you have such a statement, then it makes the case for taking them out.


It’s the policy of UC Davis to prohibit eating and drinking in the laboratory.  Here’s our policy statement: (paragraph 12).


Hope this helps.




Debbie M. Decker, CCHO

Safety Manager

Department of Chemistry

University of California, Davis

122 Chemistry

1 Shields Ave.

Davis, CA  95616





Birkett's hypothesis: "Any chemical reaction

that proceeds smoothly under normal conditions,

can proceed violently in the presence of an idiot."





From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Hojjatie
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:06 AM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Drinking Fountain in the Lab



We are in the process of building a new Lab and it is almost ready for occupation.


The Lab designer has put two drinking fountains in the Lab. I believe this is not allowed per OSHA’s Laboratory Standards, however, the discussion is that “there is minimum chance of chemical contamination” with these drinking fountains. I have requested the removal of these, but it would be costly at this point. I have two questions:


Are the drinking fountains allowed in the Lab area?


Is it OK to shut down the water source at this point and leave the fountains there?


I appreciate the expert opinions on this subject.



Michael Hojjatie, Ph.D.  



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