From: Norm Bell <nbell**At_Symbol_Here**WILLIAMS.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lesson learned video - but what about student labs?
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 17:18:04 -0500
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We had a washer and dryer installed in our science center to wash lab coats.
I see no problem with routine washing needs. Situations with contamination
by hazardous substances would need to be dealt with on a case by case basis.

Norm Bell

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David Roberts
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lesson learned video - but what about student labs?

I know it always degrades to this - and I'm sorry - but we have again been
talking about this at my institution, and the question that comes up for
small town, small college people is how do we launder these coats. We can't
have a service here (for many reasons - the easiest call being that there
aren't any that would come from our town). Can I just install a washing
machine somewhere in the chemistry dept - or ????? I would do that - not a
problem - I just need to know if that's allowed

Thanks

Dave

On Nov 14, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Debbie M. Decker wrote:

> At UC Davis, we require all undergrads to purchase a 100% cotton lab coat
for use in lab, along with splash goggles. Our Teaching Assistants are in
light blue 100% cotton lab coats so we can pick them out in the sea of white
coats. It appears in the class syllabus (syllabi?) so there's no question
about the requirement.
>
> Initially, it was a bit chaotic, but the bookstore now knows what to
expect so things go more smoothly now.
>
> HTH,
> Debbie
>
> Debbie M. Decker, CCHO
> Safety Manager
> Department of Chemistry
> University of California, Davis
> 122 Chemistry
> 1 Shields Ave.
> Davis, CA 95616
> (530)754-7964
> (530)304-6728
> dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**ucdavis.edu
>
> Birkett's hypothesis: "Any chemical reaction that proceeds smoothly
> under normal conditions, can proceed violently in the presence of an
> idiot."
>
>
>
>
> From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Patricia Redden
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:04 AM
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lesson learned video - but what about student labs?
>
> SACL recommends impervious aprons for students in lab, with long sleeves
and long pants or skirts.
>
> Pat Redden
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Lindsey Kayman
wrote:
> Great video! The video focused on people in research areas, but I'm
> wondering how institutions are dealing with the logistics of lab costs
> for students in teaching labs? What about lab courses where there is
> only infrequent, incidental use of corrosives and other chemicals?
>
> We are having logistical issues lab coats for these courses and are
> considering providing reusable community disposable coats for
> specified student lab protocols.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lindsey
>
> Lindsey Kayman, CIH
> John Jay College of Criminal Justice
> lkayman**At_Symbol_Here**jjay.cuny.edu
> 212-621-4117
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:16 AM, "Secretary, ACS Division of Chemical Health
and Safety" wrote:
> >
> > http://cenblog.org/the-safety-zone/2014/11/lesson-learned-video-an-a
> > cid-spill-without-a-lab-coat/
> >
> > Lesson learned video: An acid spill without a lab coat
> >
> > "I probably would not have thought to go to the hallway right away, if
someone wasn't there to point me in the direction. I probably would have run
around the lab trying to remember where the shower is, knowing full well
that there wasn't one in there."
> >
> > "It was a freak accident in terms of it shouldn't have shot out at me.
But if I would have been wearing my lab coat, probably almost 99% chance it
would have never contacted my skin, just would've had to get the lab coat
off really quickly."
> >
> > "I remember in undergrad, it was a huge thing: Always wear your lab
coat, that's what I was taught. It was definitely something I was taught
here as well during training and all that. It's what I started doing. But as
time went on and I looked at different people in lab and other labs, there's
actually a number of people who don't wear their lab coats, actually a much
greater number than I was ever expecting, which is not something I was used
to at all. So at times, especially during the summer when it got really hot,
there was times when I knew what I was doing so I just wouldn't put it on. I
sweat very easily and that just made it worse. It's just one of the things.
Especially at the end of the day, I just didn't think to use my lab coat and
I thought I'd be really quick. But clearly no matter what I'm doing in the
lab I should've been wearing it, as everyone should."

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