From: Zack Mansdorf <mansdorfz**At_Symbol_Here**BELLSOUTH.NET>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [UK OFFICIAL] Transport of dangerous chemicals
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:22:39 -0500
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I am pretty familiar with Edgewood from my days there in uniform. This could be more complicated than just a highly toxic material. If the discussion would not be classified, I might suggest you contact Andy Altemos at HMT Associates. He is a leading expert in hazardous materials shipping (has a shipping consulting business) whom I have worked with (fee for service).


Good luck



S.Z. Mansdorf, PhD, CIH, CSP, QEP

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Margaret Rakas
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [UK OFFICIAL] Transport of dangerous chemicals


Dear Dr. Williams,


You may want to contact 

+44 (0) 151 653 1500


They provide packaging for regulated materials and perhaps either can help you or send you to another vendor.  I use their affiliate in the US and once I have classified the shipment, they are very willing to work with me to find the right type of packaging.  We have some samples that are not in the usual type of container and they have some very innovative packaging which has been helpful to us.


Good luck!





On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Williams Gareth R <GRWILLIAMS**At_Symbol_Here**> wrote:

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Fellow scientists and safety professionals across the pond,


I work for the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (part of the UK Ministry of Defence).  We are essentially the UK version of DoD's Edgewood Chemical & Biological centre.


It doesn't take much imagination to know that we work with quantities of high-hazard, acutely toxic materials, all of which fall under GHS Acute Toxicity Class 1.


My question is, how do I find a suitable UN approved container to transport 5g of an acutely toxic solid and 5g of an acutely toxic liquid from our synthesis laboratories to our analytical facility.  We used to use bespoke containers, but these are no longer an option as we cannot demonstrate that they are fit for purpose.  We would therefore like to source a commercial solution.


Any ideas?


Grateful for any help,




Gareth R. Williams PhD

Dstl Porton Down

United Kingdom


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