From: LMSTROUD**At_Symbol_Here**
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Concern about one of today's incident reports
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:56:54 -0400
Reply-To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
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I would bet that most K-12 school personnel have never heard of a hazard or risk assessment much less done one. They are not aware OSHA 1910.132 requires a hazard assessment for PPE in the lab. Many teachers do not know how to cleanup spills. Sure many people will disagree with me; however, I am in middle / secondary labs. Science teachers are given little support when it comes to safety because the majority of the principals have degrees in subjects other than science. Principals are not made aware of OSHA regulations regarding the science lab. I tried to do a free seminar at the NC Principals Academy.. Did not even get a reply.
I too wondered about the mix of chemicals. Why?
Linda Stroud, Ph.D.; NRCC-CHO
Science & Safety Consulting Services
In a message dated 4/22/2015 10:37:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, patty.olinger**At_Symbol_Here**EMORY.EDU writes:
While I agree that there may be a policy that requires them to evacuate.  The bigger picture item here is that what are we teaching people.  If they had completed their risk assessment they would have understood the risk and had a plan in place to address this.  Instead we overkill, costing more money and creating a culture that does not understand the fundamentals of safety, risk assessment, etc.  

We can and should do better-.


Patty Olinger, RBP
Assit. VP - Office of Research Administration
Exec. Director of EHSO
Emory University

From: Ben Ruekberg <bruekberg**At_Symbol_Here**CHM.URI.EDU>
Organization: University of Rhode Island / Dept. of Chemistry
Reply-To: DCHAS-L <dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:58 AM
To: "DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU" <dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Concern about one of today's incident reports

While I agree that the evacuation seems unnecessary, it may not be the teacher's fault.  The school may have a policy with which the teacher was complying and policies do not always make sense all of the time. 


What I wonder is how all of those materials could be in solution: silver and chloride, lead and sulfate?



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