From: Jim <jim**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETYINSTITUTE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Waiver Form Example
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 08:57:36 +0700
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I would call it "trust with verification".   When I send samples for analysis, I always include an unidentified blank.  ... Jim

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From: Ben Ruekberg <bruekberg**At_Symbol_Here**CHM.URI.EDU>
Date: 09/04/2015 6:05 PM (GMT+07:00)
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Waiver Form Example

                An ethical question occurred to me.


                Assuming a student wishes to consult their physician regarding which experiments they should ask to be excused, would it be ethical to insert in the information an experiment which will not be performed but which calls for the use of a teratogenic, mutagenic or allergenic compound?  If the physician fails to identify this "experiment" as proscribed, their competence to advise should be called into question.  This could be valuable information.  On the other hand, it involves deception.


                Does this fall under the rubric of human experimentation without proper informed consent, taking the physician's time unnecessarily, or simply a bad idea?


                Any thoughts, politely stated, would be welcome.


                Thank you,



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