From: "Wilhelm, Monique" <mwilhelm**At_Symbol_Here**UMFLINT.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 17:51:05 +0000
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Could we as a group somehow encourage the ACS president to speak out on this? Who would be the appropriate person to draft this request and send it? It seems to be an important issue to our division, and the SC of CHED, to make sure this information goes out in a timely manner.


On November 1, 2015, at 12:46 PM, "Samuella B. Sigmann" wrote:

Maybe that could prompt a Congressional Hearing on it.
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On 11/1/2015 10:50 AM, NEAL LANGERMAN wrote:
This is bigger than CHAS or CCS ? really, the President of ACS needs to speak out on this ?

Neal

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**med.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Ellen M. Sweet
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 5:32 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

Perhaps the Educational Programming Committee should take the lead on this?
Ellen

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Laurence Doemeny
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

While training is helpful the real need is getting the information about the hazard to the teachers and administrators. Apparently some instructors don't know there is a problem.

My suggestion is for the ACS and teacher organizations to jointly contact local and national news media to have a segment on the dangers of some of these demonstrations and how to perform them safely. That should get parent and school administrators attention. This would make a nice PBS Frontline or 60 Minutes segment.

The Chemical Safety Board makes outstanding videos and excellent reports but their reach appears limited.

Laurence Doemeny

From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**med.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Casadonte, Dominick
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 1:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

This continues to beg for training for demonstrators...

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Date: Friday, October 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM
To: "DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU" >
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

I just showed the CSB video to our preteachers this week!
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On 10/30/2015 4:00 PM, Harry J. Elston wrote:
Bang Head Here ---> (Rainbow Experiment)

Harry

On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Jyllian Kemsley <jyllian.kemsley**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:
"She was demonstrating the experiment ... with the different elements causing the fire to change color, and as the fire was dying down she added more alcohol"

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Two are in serious condition (presumably with burns). No chemistry details yet. I think we all have a good guess at what was involved based on unfortunate past experiences, but let's sit tight until there is confirmation.

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We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do everything with nothing. Teresa Arnold

Samuella B. Sigmann, NRCC-CHO
Senior Lecturer/Safety Committee Chair/Director of Stockroom
A. R. Smith Department of Chemistry
Appalachian State University
525 Rivers Street
Boone, NC 28608
Phone: 828 262 2755
Fax: 828 262 6558
Email: sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu

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