From: James Wright <jhwright**At_Symbol_Here**UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Why are QC/Qa labs not covered by the Lab Standard?
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:17:24 +0000
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UCLA was cited four times for non-compliance with the lab standard (Title 8 5191) in 2009 by Cal/OSHA.
Also this citation was discussed by Jyllian Kemsley ( ) because of one of the citations related to the previous CHO being deemed unqualified.

The best rationale I can think of that QC/QA could be argued as part of the production process. As part of the production process it does not meet the definition of laboratory use of hazardous chemicals.

James H. Wright, PhD
Chemical Safety Officer
The University of Chicago
Office of Research Safety
5730 S. Ellis Ave, Crerar Library Rm 018
Chicago, IL 60637
Phone: (773)702-5907

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Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Why are QC/Qa labs not covered by the Lab Standard?

> >I do not understand the point of the distinction. The end result would be to bind QC/QA labs to the OSHA regulations for large production level quantities of chemicals.
I think that this is a distinction without a difference. As far as I can tell, OSHA has not cited anyone under the lab standard for at least 10 years, if ever (I've asked OSHA for an instance and they couldn't come up with one). As discussed at
even OSHA citations that involve lab operations use more generic standards such as the HazCom or PPE requirements rather than the lab standard, most likely for simplicity of the enforcement adminstration.

With this in mind, if you have a operation that meets the OSHA definition of lab scale and you feel that a Chemical Hygiene Plan approach will improve your safety program, I would write a CHP that addresses lab safety for your operations. This effort can only add value to a regulatory interaction with OSHA involving those operations. An example of such an operation could be an art studio that operates with small enough amounts of chemicals to be considered lab scale. I would note that I have seen many art studios that wouldn't meet that definition and/or have other hazards that wouldn't be included in a CHP (e.g. welding).

Thanks for any interesting question.

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
Chemical Hygiene Officer
Keene State College


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