From: K Roy <safesci**At_Symbol_Here**SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Systemic safety problems?
Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 13:46:51 +0000
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Eddie - Right on!  Key here is raising their levels of awareness relative to safety and positive reinforcement - stay the course as they say - we are missionary for sure.

Ken Roy

Kenneth R. Roy, Ph.D.
Director of Environmental Health & Safety
Glastonbury Public Schools (CT)
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On Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:04 PM, McGrath Edward J <Edward.McGrath**At_Symbol_Here**REDCLAY.K12.DE.US> wrote:

In June, I will be delivering an hour long presentation to teachers and administrators in Delaware  (K-12 public  and charter schools ) on what they should know about science and safety.   One theme I hope to drive home is that a culture of safety doesn't just happen :  it must be planned, like any other aspect of good instruction.   One question I would like to ask any teacher contemplating a rainbow demo, a woosh  bottle experiment,  or other lab/demo where hazardous incidents have resulted in injury:

What we're the learning objectives of this lesson?   How is student learning assessed?

If these questions can't be answered, there's a good chance that the lesson also suffers from being unnecessarily hazardous. 

I ask my teachers to include a hazard analysis /risk assessment  and specific safety precautions into their lesson plans.   It's amazing how much more safety conscious they become when they see these things written in their own hand.  Even better,  when I hear a student tell another, "hey, move that chair!  It's blocking the eyewash!"

Eddie McGrath
Red Clay Consolidated School District 
Wilmington Delaware 

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From: "Robin M. Izzo" <rmizzo**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Date: 04/29/2016 1:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Systemic safety problems?

I couldn't agree more, Pete and Bob. 
I would add three more things:
=B7         PIs, chairs, supervisors, etc. who do not make it clear that safety is a priority and needs to be part of the scientific method.
=B7         Lack of training/mentorship for PIs and lab supervisors regarding how to run a lab, especially amid the many other issues that they face - publishing demand, teaching, grant writing, etc.
=B7         Training and education that does not always include strategies to bring up safety concerns.  Many people, even PIs watching their students, are not comfortable confronting people, making waves, asking questions that they think they should already have the answer, etc.
That's all about safety culture, too.
Robin M. Izzo
Environmental Health and Safety
Princeton University
609-258-6259 (office)
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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of roberth_hill
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Systemic safety problems?
Noticed that too. Besides your points is my continued observations that these incidents occur because safety education is missing from the curriculum. This results in TWO things: lack of knowledge about safety AND a missing or weak safety ethic. The latter comes from continuous safety education over the entire learning process.  So if safety education is missing so is the strong safety ethic.
Bob Hill
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From: "Reinhardt, Peter" <peter.reinhardt**At_Symbol_Here**YALE.EDU>
Date: 04/28/2016 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Systemic safety problems?
The following C&E News quote surprised me. I wonder what you think:
"The independent investigation into the March 16, 2016 explosion in a University of Hawai'i at M=C4=81noa laboratory is now expected to be complete in mid to late May-The University of California Center for Laboratory Safety, retained by UH to conduct the investigation-In its preliminary investigation, the UC Center for Laboratory Safety, considered a national leader in laboratory safety, determined that the explosion was an isolated incident and not the result of a systemic problem."
I am not sure how the UC Center for Laboratory Safety defines a "systemic problem," and perhaps I don't know pertinent details of this awful, tragic accident, but I keep pondering the following questions, which allude to systemic safety problems (as I would define them) all too common in academic institutions:
=B7       Was a hazard analysis done prior to the experiments? Does the University of Hawai'i integrate hazard analysis into its research process?
=B7       When so many different hazards exist in each research laboratory, how can students and post docs (still in the early phases of their professional development) gain the requisite knowledge and skills to recognize and understand the specific risks associated with their work?
=B7       Was there an anonymous, nonpunitive incident and near-miss reporting system? (I realized that, had the person reported the near-miss that preceded the accident, it would have been easy to identify that person.)
=B7       What can be done about the dependence of students and postdocs on the principal investigator for their professional advancement, and the way this relationship's power differential affects the willingness of students and post docs to raise safety concerns?
Some of the above wording is verbatim from the National Academies "Safe Science: Promoting a Culture of Safety in Academic Chemical Research" ( If these systemic problems existed at the University of Hawai'i, I do hope that UC Center for Laboratory Safety shares their findings and recommendations. It would help me and others improve our safety programs.
Peter A. Reinhardt
Director, Office of Environmental Health & Safety
Yale University
135 College St., Suite 100
New Haven, CT   06510-2411
(203) 737-2123

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