From: Jarral Ryter <jryter**At_Symbol_Here**WESTERN.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 15:06:13 +0000
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We are small public university with little to no funding for such things. Hence why I am dealing with it as well as 100 other things like teaching.  Love this group for all the great info. 
Thank you very much, 

Jarral Ryter
Western State Colorado University



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From: "Kohler, Christopher E" <cekohler**At_Symbol_Here**IU.EDU>
Date: 12/11/16 8:24 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

FYI. The MOT  exception does not include hazardous waste. 

As Peter points out, public institutions as "government agencies" are not subject to DOT HMR and can move hazardous waste.

Chris
Christopher Kohler
Lab Safety Manager
Indiana University


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From: Jarral Ryter <jryter**At_Symbol_Here**WESTERN.EDU>
Date: 12/9/16 8:49 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

That is very interesting. We are 4 plus hours from Denver where most hazardous waste companies come from.  the cost of getting a truck and the time for the workers for pick up is very expensive.  if we could drive it there we could save a great deal.  we don't have very great quantities or "really" dangerous stuff. 



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From: Peter Zavon <pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM>
Date: 12/8/16 3:56 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

The Materials OF Trade ( not "in Trade") exception could be useful for employees of a private educational institution moving chemicals, but within limits.  Only some hazard classes are covered, the size of packages is limited, packaging must be at least as good as the original packaging (if not the original) and must be secured against movement in transport.  The aggregate gross weight of all materials of trade  in one motor vehicle cannot exceed 200 kg.

 

But for employees of a public university moving regulated hazardous materials on university business, Materials of Trade is irrelevant since they are not engaged in commerce and thus are not covered by the DOT Haz Mat shipping regulations.  Of course any public university choosing to move such materials would be well advised to comply with the regulations as much as reasonably possible.  The alternative is risk of a substantial law suit and really bad publicity if the transport goes bad and people are hurt or substantial property damage occurs and can be attributed to "short cuts" used because the regulations did not apply..

 

Peter Zavon, CIH
Penfield, NY

PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com

 

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Russ Phifer
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 1:14 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

 

I agree with Ed; the specific regulatory reference is the Materials in Trade Exception (49CFR 173.6). You do not need to hire a "licensed" company to transport hazardous materials from one of your facilities to another, or across campus. You do need to utilize DOT packaging if you are going on public roads, and need a hazardous materials bill of lading (available online or in office supply stores) to accompany the load.

 

This exemption also applies to field studies (stream sampling, for instance) and to Chem Week type chemistry demonstrations at shopping malls and other public places.

 

Hazardous waste transport is not allowed under this exception, but you can transport hazardous waste around your campus as long as you are crossing public roads but not going onto public roads.

 

Russ

Russ Phifer

WC Environmental, LLC

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Movitz
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:38 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

 

A government employee, transporting government owned material, from one government location to another government location, either on public roads or not, is not subject to any DOT regulations. 

 

WVU employees can load a WVU truck with WVU chemicals (carefully) and drive to any other WVU campus.

 

DOT regulates transportation in commerce, and the government transportation of government materials as described above is not a commercial activity.

Ed

 

 

 

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Research & Environmental Compliance Officer / FSO

The University of Mississippi 

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> on behalf of Barbara Foster <bfoster**At_Symbol_Here**WVU.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:10 AM
To:
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

 

You don't mention the specifics on distance and/or routes, but you have to follow all DOT regs when transporting hazardous materials on roadways. You will have to hire a licensed company to move hazardous materials across campus.

 

Barbara L. Foster

College Safety Officer

Eberly College of Arts and Sciences

West Virginia University

DCHAS Fellow - American Chemical Society

304-293-2729 (desk)

304-276-0099 (mobile)

http://safety.eberly.wvu.edu/

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Fu, Zhen
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 10:01 AM
To:
DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Moving labs in University

 

Hi all,

 

Could you please share the policy or procedures on moving batch of chemicals within university from one building to the other? What EHS's role on this matter?

 

Thank you,

 

Zhen

 

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