From: Roger McClellan <roger.o.mcclellan**At_Symbol_Here**ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Color-blindness as a lab safety concern
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:25:11 +0000
Reply-To: Roger McClellan <roger.o.mcclellan**At_Symbol_Here**ATT.NET>
Message-ID: 753397588.3745422.1487003111549**At_Symbol_Here**mail.yahoo.com


To al:
Wow! The note from Eddie is a breath of fresh air in this turbulent world filled with folks waiting for some one to explain the rules and finger pointing! I hope my grand children are fortunate to have some teachers with Eddie's common sense approach to problem solving attitude. Fortunately, my grand children have had a few teachers like Eddie. Best wishes to Eddie for success in his teaching career.
Regards to all.
Roger McClellan
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On Mon, 2/13/17, McGrath Edward J wrote:

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Color-blindness as a lab safety concern
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Date: Monday, February 13, 2017, 9:03 AM









Hi
Everybody:

This is an interesting discussion
indeed. Thanks to the Individual with Disabilities
Education Act and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of
1973, in the education realm,
there must be accommodations made for a diagnosis of
color-blindness or other disabilities if they interfere with
the education process. Consider that students affected
by this in chemistry are also, by definition, novices in
chemistry. There are many work-arounds
we have developed.

I teach introductory microbiology
in a community college setting, and color blindness is an
issue with Gram staining. Every situation is unique,
but I always say that the science
class (chemistry, microbiology, whatever) is where you get
a true handle on the nature of the disability, how (or if)
it will affect success, and what kind of 'work-arounds'
you'll need. The most valuable source of information
about how to handle situations
like this is to ask the person, 'how have you solved
similar problems?'

Eddie
McGrath

Edward J. McGrath
Supervisor of Science
Red Clay Consolidated School
District
1502 Spruce Avenue
Wilmington, DE 19805


(302) 552-3768

We did not inherit
the Earth from our parents. We borrowed it from our
children.

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health
and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU]
On Behalf Of Monona Rossol

Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 10:01 AM

To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Color-blindness as a lab
safety concern

It is also a
job-requirement for people working in theatrical lighting,
set design, costume, make up, etc. Since there are no
such requirements in art, it may explain
the work I am seeing lately.




Monona Rossol, M.S.,
M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist


President: Arts,
Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.


Safety Officer: Local
USA829, IATSE


181 Thompson St.,
#23


New York, NY
10012 212-777-0062


actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com www.artscraftstheatersafety.org










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From: Samuella B. Sigmann

To: DCHAS-L

Sent: Sat, Feb 11, 2017 7:02 am

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Color-blindness as a lab safety
concern


A Chinese student in
our graduate program in the 80s told me that students either
could not take, or could not major (slept too many
times since then) in chemistry in China. Not sure if
it is true now, but I did find this at:




http://mbbs.cucas.edu.cn/HomePage/Univ_14.shtml#


Application Requirements and
Materials
Entry
Requirements:



1. High school graduate or above, qualified for university
entrance, medically sound foreigners(applicants with
color weakness and color blindness are not eligible to
apply).

2. Emigrants from mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, and
Taiwan applying as international students must have obtained
their current foreign citizenship before April 30, 2011. In
addition, the applicant must have lived abroad for at least
2 years during the period
between April 30, 2011 and April 30, 2015.



What about anosmia? I have had to work on how to accommodate
this one with stockroom personnel for safety issues as
well. It is not a recognized disability, but it is
pretty scary to think about. I found out about this
worker's loss of smell when a beaker
of starch was left heating unattended on a hotplate.
The worker was in the office next door with no clue anything
was burning.




Any loss of our senses (Hah!) adds to the risk for lab
workers.

S-

On 2/10/2017 8:01 PM,
J & K Smith wrot


Another
anecdote:

When I was in undergraduate
chemistry about 1950, my professor was finishing his thesis
in reactions of permanganate. He was colorblind also
and had to have his wife read the color changes during the
reactions. That was before the automated graphing
spectrophotometers and all had to be done by hand. He
would be in the lab for hours.

Kenneth Smith
Former CIH

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From: ACS Division of
Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU]
On Behalf Of Debbie M. Decker
Sent: Thursday, February 09,
2017 9:13 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L]
Color-blindness as a lab safety concern

An anecdote:

When I worked in aerospace,
a colleague described a situation in which he and a group of
fellow electrical engineers and electricians were working on
wiring up a control panel for a nuclear power plant.
They got it all hooked up and tested the system and it
didn't work. Checked connections, etc. -
nothing. Repeat. Finally decide to go to lunch
and think about what might be wrong. Over lunch, one
of the group mentions that he's color blind. You
guessed it - turns out the entire crew, including my friend,
were color blind and the wiring was all color-coded.
They finally found an admin person with normal color vision
who helped them make sure the proper wire got connected
where it was supposed to be connected.

My spouse is color-blind -
it makes for some amusing family stories.


Debbie M. Decker, CCHO, ACS
Fellow
Past Chair, Division of
Chemical Health and Safety University of California,
Davis
(530)754-7964
(530)304-6728
dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**ucdavis.edu


Birkett's hypothesis:
"Any chemical reaction that proceeds smoothly under
normal conditions, can proceed violently in the presence of
an idiot."

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Oh, my! Yes, color
blindness is a safety issue in the lab and lots of other
place.

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the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the
impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so
long, with so little, we are now qualified to do everything
with nothing.
Teresa
Arnold
paraphrased from Konstantin Josef
Jire?ek (1854 '
1918)





Samuella B. Sigmann, MS, NRCC-CHO


Senior Lecturer/Safety Committee
Chair/Director of Stockroom


A. R. Smith Department of
Chemistry


Appalachian State
University


525 Rivers Street


Boone, NC 28608


Phone: 828 262 2755


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