From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Unfamiliar Material
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 19:31:46 -0500
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Glad you understand   It's usually takes dead people in this industry before changes are made.  Otherwise the fines are just the cost of doing biz.  And the major film companies have almost endless resources.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062
actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com   www.artscraftstheatersafety.org

 


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Sent: Fri, Feb 17, 2017 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Unfamiliar Material

Monona,

I feel your pain and as you know this involves some out of the box operating.  We had to have some of our folks involved in accidents and getting stopped at the border with hazardous materials by immigration.  Until that happened a few times management kept wanting to know what the SHE group was doing wrong.   We finally got managements attention when someone came back into the US from international travel and had to pay an $35,000 customs fine.  When that happened then the brain dead senior managers were being held accountable for the fine.  Then they started listening to the SHE group.   Sometimes you have to wait for the crap to hit the fan before anyone will listen and then respond.

Regards,
Aaron

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On Feb 17, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:

Not happening.  These people are taking their road boxes all over the country, all over NYC, over seas, by car, truck rail and any other way they can get them moved.  And if there is gun play, explosions or special effects involved, there may even be a portable magazine.  Sometimes they are squirreling the road boxes away in the backs of the vans.  They are rarely stopped and it would take unloading of the whole van full of complicated and expensive equipment to get to them.

Not only don't the people using these paints, solvents and other products know how to do the paper work, they don't even know it is needed.  It has always just worked out that somehow they the tell someone in Production that they can't do the job without the box, and the boxes get moved.

I asked who might be capable of doing this DOT labeling for the industry because this might mean jobs for some people.  It really isn't the money that is the problem, it is the time involved in doing it right that keeps things from changing.

Otherwise it will be the same old mantra:   It doesn't have to be done right, it has to be done Tuesday.


Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062

 


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From: Aaron's Phone <cycling1**At_Symbol_Here**VERIZON.NET>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Fri, Feb 17, 2017 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Unfamiliar Material

Monona,  

There are obviously labeling for HazCom issues for what folks carry in there personal vehicles but.......the bigger issue I see is DOT requirements for transport of hazardous chemicals over the open roadways regulated by DOT.   We got to the point of NOT allowing researchers to carry hazardous chemicals in personal vehicles.  In a chemical company we had lots of researchers, sales, marketing and technical folks who wanted to carry hazardous chems in personal vehicles.  There is special DOT requirements for this.  We got to the point where we had our chemical delivery trucks carrying all chemicals locally.  (Those vehicles were DOT registered and the drivers knew how to handle the paperwork).  Anything outside of local delivery was handled by delivery companies that had the delivery equipment and annual training for their employees.

Best regards,
Aaron Chen, MPH, CIH, FAIHA

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On Feb 17, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:

You sound like you also know what you are doing.  Maybe you can refer me to someone who would be able to help scenic artists get their road box liquid paints, dyes, solvents and other chemicals properly labeled for transport. Almost none of these will be in their original containers.  They are paints that have been altered and mixed to the colors on a particular set design.  These usually are steamer trunk-sized boxes full of all the stuff they will need.

Mostly the crisscross the US from Coast to Coast, but occasionally go across the big and little ponds and some have had these materials confiscated.

And then there are pyrotechnic road boxes,  Oy.  


Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062

 


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From: Mark Ellison <Mark**At_Symbol_Here**TANKTRAILERCLEANING.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Fri, Feb 17, 2017 10:13 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Unfamiliar Material

As a follow-up, the manufacturer called and helped clear up the confusion on our end. Turns out, this material has not been shipped, but the hauler was trying to get pricing in place to quote to the manufacturer for turnkey service, the hauler being my customer. The manufacturer is putting me in touch with the product "steward", so I can determine safe work practices, equipment needs, and disposal options of heels and rinsates.

Thank you to everyone in this list for commenting on and off line. It is a great feeling to know that I have this outstanding resource available to me to help in my life long journey to provide health and safety guidance to my folks.

Mark Ellison



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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of TILAK CHANDRA
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:11 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Unfamiliar Material

Aromatic compound with a trifluoromethyl substitution. From SciFinder.

Tilak

1417782-28-5
Structure:
AS Registry Number 1417782-28-5

C15 H10 Cl F3 O2
Ethanone, 1-[4-(4-chlorophenoxy)-2-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]-
Molecular Weight
314.69
Boiling Point (Predicted)
Value: 372.5 =B142.0 =B0C | Condition: Press: 760 Torr Density (Predicted)
Value: 1.327 =B10.06 g/cm3 | Condition: Temp: 20 =B0C Press: 760 Torr Other Names
•1-[4-(4-Chlorophenoxy)-2-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]ethanone
•1-[4-(4-Chloro-phenoxy)-2-trifluoromethyl-phenyl]ethanone


Notes
1) chemoselective, Grignard reaction, Reactants: 3, Reagents: 3, Catalysts: 1, Solvents: 3, Steps: 2, Stages: 4, Most stages in any one step: 3 References Process for the preparation of substituted phenoxyphenyl ketones Quick View By Vogelbacher, Uwe Josef et al From PCT Int. Appl., 2015091045, 25 Jun 2015

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of davivid
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:50 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Unfamiliar Material

A google search on docetaxel pulls up a wikipedia entry having that CAS number, but the structure does not correspond to the name on the SDS.

D

On 15/2/17 9:54 AM, Frankie Wood-Black wrote:
> The CAS No pulls this up in the Sigma Aldrich Catalog - Docetaxel
>
> Does not look like it is on the TSCA Inventory
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>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am stymied here. I have a customer who presented a vessel that
>> previously contained a material with the CAS number 1417782-28-5 for
>> cleaning. The chemical name on the SDS is "Ethanone,
>> 1-[4-(4-chlorophenoxy)-2(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]-". I tried to look
>> it up on the CAS site and got "No Results". I called the
>> manufacturer and they couldn't find the product either by CAS number or product number.
>> They said they would get back to me. Any suggestions would be
>> greatly appreciated. I just want to know if I can safely wash this
>> vessel without harming my employees, the environment, or the downstream POTW. Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Ellison
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