From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemical splash google.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 07:31:29 -0400
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If they meet D3, why doesn't it say that somewhere on the copy?   I'm always suspicious.  And when I looked at others on that site, they say they meet Z87.1-2010, but I don't see any of them with a + or other designations in their copy.  I admit I also didn't look very hard.  Just be careful.

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From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Thu, Aug 17, 2017 6:09 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemical splash google.

Jarral,
Wow! I have never seen these before. In my former role at LSI, I served on the ANSI Z87.1 committee and these appear to technically meet the D3 splash requirements. 
"Versatile wrap-around comfort with optional foam and strap kit for goggle conversion.
D3 rating for liquid splash protection when worn as a goggle with the foam attachment."

They look to good to be true. Have you tried them? Do they fog with "kit" in place? Once you put the foam in place is it permanent? What kind of foam? Would a chemical soak into the foam? 

Also the D3 is a test for splash, but not fit. These may work well for some and not others. The goggle must fit snugly (2010 version) or tightly (2015 version) to the face to provide adequate protection. Does that foam form a seal? 
The end user still has much to evaluate with eye protection for splash.. And ultimately it really is important to consider that the eye protection must me proportionate to the hazards. If using chemicals that could be damaging to the eyes you want to be sure the eye protection is adequate.
I really wish this was easier, but in my opinion the D3 test is flawed and the end user can't just rely on that mark to ensure protection. They must evaluate fit and function for themselves. 
Thanks for sharing these. I will be getting a pair to evaluate them myself. 

Christina Dillard
EHS Program Manager
Museum of Science

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On Aug 16, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Jarral Ryter <jryter**At_Symbol_Here**WESTERN.EDU> wrote:

I am looking for better options for chemical splash googles for teaching labs. I found the following that are very optically clear and fit against the face. We have removed most hazardous chemicals from our general chemistry labs but not all. They are ANSI z87.1 rated.
 
 
I have had someone ask if general wrap around safety glasses mainly for biology labs also..
 
Would there be reason that these Bolle goggles are not as good as the big cheap, hard to see through googles and how many labs out there in academics and industry use the wrap around glasses that you see on tv shows being used?
 
Jarral Ryter
Senior Chemistry Lecturer/Lab and Safety Manager
Western State Colorado University
 
970.943.2875
 
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