DCHAS-L Archives, Dec 05 2018 - Re: [DCHAS-L] DRY DRAIN BROUGHT HAZMAT TO DREW UNIVERSITY

In case anyone needs to know, the caption of the original "illustration" is ...

Woman at work in yellow hazardous material protective hazmat suit gas mask rubber gloves and rubber boots checking out a underground train tunnel with geiger counter.

Shutterstock provided the picture from :

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/woman-work-yellow-hazardous-material-protective-75722950?src=GeyGhRn7hIZY1uIntSi50g-1-64

The picture was used on the cover of a Selcer mystery book:

https://www.amazon.com/Dead-But-Still-Ticking-Barrister/dp/193981605X

United response to nuclear safety

https://cordis.europa.eu/news/rcn/35708_en.html

Compliance with PEL in the Oil and Gas Industry

https://www.totalsafety.com/insights/tools-for-improving-compliance-with-permissible-exposure-limits-in-the-oil-and-gas-industry/

as well as

Firefighters Contain Sulfuric Acid Leak At Fermilab In Batavia

https://patch.com/illinois/batavia/sulfuric-acid-leak-causes-hazmat-response-fermilab-batavia

Edward M. Movitz

Research & Environmental Compliance Officer / FSO

The University of Mississippi

Laboratory Services

P..O. Box 1848

100 Health and Safety Building

University, MS 38677-1848

U.S.A.

+1-662-915-5433

movitz**At_Symbol_Here**olemiss.edu | safety.olemiss.edu

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> on behalf of Alan Hall <oldeddoc**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
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The picture is quite interesting. It certainly does not appear to have been taken in a laboratory setting. It most resembles a subway platform with the yellow safety line and wat appear to be a sngle set of train tracks. It appears this person is holding what looks to be a rather old Geiger-Mueller counter, but not employing the probe. The gloves look like butyl rubber nd are not properly taped. I don't recognize the suit material. The person seems to be wearing a full-facepiece filter respirator with two catrridges (and which kind is unclear nor would how they have been selected as appropriate for use). No mention is made of having tested for O2 percentatges before deciding that such a repirator would be appropriate (it certainly would not is a HAZMAT incident inan hypoxic atmosphere with O2 below current OSHA regulations. Therefore, I have serious doubts that this is an actual photo from the incident scene. If it is, I would seriously hope that someone initiates major re-training for the responder.

I share others concerns that using a 4-gas meter onlyand declaring an aera safe is not appropriate.

One odor problem case I recall was solved when one of the employee's desk drawers was opened and a very rotten orange left over from a partially-consumed sack lunch was discovered.

Alan

Alan H. Hall, M.D.

Medical Toxicologist

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM Stephen P George <spgeorge**At_Symbol_Here**ucsd.edu> wrote:

The photo actually looks like it is a CGI still, perhaps from a video game or similar.

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Wayne Wood
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I really appreciate the chemical safety headlines, keep please them coming.

The photograph in the press release (see link below) about the dry drain incident caught the eye of our RSO. I must admit this is the first time I've seen anyone using a Geiger counter to investigate an odor!

W.

Wayne Wood | Director, Environmental Health and Safety - Directeur, Sant=E9, securit=E9 et environnement| McGill University | 3610 rue McTavish Street, 4th floor | Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3A 1Y2 | Tel: (514) 398-2391

DRY DRAIN BROUGHT HAZMAT TO DREW UNIVERSITY https://patch.com/new-jersey/madison/dry-drain-brought-hazmat-drew-university

Tags: us_NJ, laboratory, release, response, other_chemical

MADISON, NJ - A chemical smell from a dry drain in a science lab at Drew University is what brought in several sets of first responders to investigate on Thursday afternoon.

According Morris County Director Office of Emergency Management Jeffrey S. Paul said hazmat units were called to Drew University's Madison campus to investigate the report of a chemical or gasoline related odor.

The Madison Police Department and Madison Fire Department along with the Whippany Fire Departments Hazardous Materials Team were on site and the Whippany Fire Chief coordinated with the Morris County Hazardous Materials Team while they investigated the source of the odor, Paul said.

The smell was reported in the hall of the sciences building and first responders eventually the source was determined to be a dried out floor drain, Paul said.

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