From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemicals on passenger elevators
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 12:40:49 +0000
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The 2019 edition reference is A.8.3.3.1  and this edition has an additional sentence tacked to the end of the statement. "Transport of flammable, corrosive, toxic or highly toxic gases, cryogenic cylinders or dewars, or dry ice and similar oxygen depleting compounds should always be done with no one in the elevator."

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Harry J. Elston
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The "non-requirement" is found in Annex A of NFPA 45, A.8.2.3.1.  I suspect that the "suggestion-to-requirement" will be up to the Authority Having Jurisdiction.

 

Harry

 

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 6:57 AM Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:

I must have remembered wrong.  There certainly should be a lot of rules in place not to have the public sharing the elevator with large shipments of liquid chemicals such as those planned for transport within a particular public building I'm thinking of.   It just seems crazy to me.   Monona

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemicals on passenger elevators

It is a best practice not to move gas cylinders, cryogenic cylinders, and
even dry ice on elevators due to the potential for asphyxiation, fire, or
toxic exposure in the event of an extended elevator failure or
cylinder/container release but I don't know of any code that prevents it.

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From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com>
Re: chemicals on passenger elevators  new thread

I remember people talking about a standard that addressed the use of
passenger elevators for transport of chemicals to labs.  Can someone help
me find that standard and reference?

Thanks muchly

Monona Rossol

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