From: "Sigmann, Sammye" <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**APPSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] another "safe" demo
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 12:46:28 -0400
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Message-ID: 0f89d0c2-0cf0-b8f6-3550-70f2cb0d266f**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu
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Something that I noticed as I investated the MeOH incidents is that several of them occurred on the first day back from a break - the intention, I guess, being to engage students who have been away with something "exciting".

To me, this seems to me a very bad idea.å After students have been on break, they will want to talk with their friends on the first day back and are not at all focused on learning. They will not remember any safety instructions from before the break and so a thourough safety talk would be needed. They will not remember what concepts were being discussed prior to break and so the demo will be totally for the "wow" factor and to do something "fun" on the first day back.å

Sammye

On 10/7/2019 12:18 PM, Mary Shane wrote:
I have been asked, more than once, why I did not do more "exciting" demos or labs.å I believe labs are a learning experience and not for entertainment. I have heard many teacher talk about feeling the need to entertain their students with demos to engage them in learning.å It seems to me, there is a culture of doing demos for the effect and not the learning.å This needs to change.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 7:09 AM Katherine Wall <kwall**At_Symbol_Here**waubonsee.edu> wrote:
What is as disturbing to me as the risk this guy is in and his students, but the comment by 'empowermind.co.uk': "Cool video! I like watching science demonstrations! Thanks for posting and keeping chemistry real for the next generation!"å Is chemistry only 'real' when it explodes?

Just a rhetorical question.


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>>> Patricia Redden <predden**At_Symbol_Here**SAINTPETERS.EDU> 10/5/2019 5:13 PM >>>
Here's a new one on me.å Science teacher uses "explosives," according to
the title, or "flammable gas" according to his narrative, to carve a
pumpkin.å I'm guessing methanol, based on the video?å No shields, lots of
flame.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BplBmF4FbGl/?igshid=1336981534453&fbclid=IwAR2mtqhmgyRQ0D4M--ATdsri96b3suC68S2RtbJu2AhJc0LfJ3rVfpIDAD0

Pat Redden
St. Peter's University

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