From: Jeffrey Lewin <jclewin**At_Symbol_Here**MTU.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Wearing cloth mask in the lab
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 14:54:09 -0400
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At least one company on the web sells Nomex face coverings. There must be others...

https://www.zoombang.com/product/nomex-face-mask-pack-of-2/

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 1:16 PM Yaritza Brinker <YBrinker**At_Symbol_Here**fele.com> wrote:
I would refrain from those in a chemistry lab setting, especially if you also have impact and/or flame concerns.

3D printed parts are printed in layers. The ones I've seen thus far, have layer interface flaws that render the interface porous. Thus, they readily absorb low viscosity fluids and gasses. The porosity also makes the interlayers weak and they readily delaminate if force is applied perpendicular to the layers.

In order to overcome the porosity issues, you have to print them in the "correct" orientation for the particular part's function. Sometimes, you can't quite overcome it. I have "sealed" prototype parts by impregnation with anaerobic cyanoacrylate adhesive in order to reinforce them enough to conduct low-force mechanical testing.

Also, the burn ratio is likely to be rather fast since you can't have much in the way of fillers and fire retardants. So, probably not a good idea if you are using flames in your lab.

Thank you,

Yaritza Brinker
260.827.5402

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What about the viability of the face shields that are being 3D printed? Will those be compatible for lab use?

On 04/05/2020, Yaritza Brinker <YBrinker**At_Symbol_Here**fele.com> wrote:
> I see an issue with people wanting to wear a face mask and forgetting
> that material compatibility still applies. You wouldn't want someone
> working with concentrated sulfuric acid wearing a cotton face mask.
> Or a person working with combustibles wearing a face mask that isn=E2=80™t
> made of fire retardant material.
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> Thank you,
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> And how will splash goggles interface with face masks so that both are
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> What is the latest about wearing cloth mask while doing lab work? Does
> anyone know of a good article? Pros and cons.
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> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:27 AM, Stuart, Ralph
> <Ralph.Stuart**At_Symbol_Here**KEENE.EDU<mailto:Ralph.Stuart**At_Symbol_Here**KEENE.EDU>> wrote:
>> In fact, just compiling a list of coronavirus-related issues that
>> should be addressed would be valuable.
>>
> I'll throw one in: An issue I am concerned about in regard to
> reopening any public area is the cloth mask protocol. Cloth masks are
> community health measures rather than personal safety measures, so I
> would be reluctant to impose OSHA style expectations on the use of
> cloth masks by the public. On the other hand, I can imagine that these
> masks are likely to become reservoirs for many contaminants beyond the Covid virus.
>
> I think that we face a major challenge in maintaining the quality of
> the cloth masks if we ask people to wear them in public areas while
> relying on the wearers to maintain them. I suspect that professional
> laundry services will be required to assure co-workers and the
> community that the masks are being appropriately cleaned.
>
> A related question is: Are labs public areas? Few academic labs I have
> seen have security protocols that control who enters them and it will
> take a significant change in both protocol and culture in change this situation.
>
> Thanks for asking an interesting question.
>
> - Ralph
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