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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ASHRAE guidance on Reopening Schools and Universities
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 22:31:19 +0000
Reply-To: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**CS.COM>
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.26.20141085v1.full.pdf  

Try that.  The study is under peer review for publication in a Spanish Journal since the study was done in a hospital in Spain.  But our people have looked at it and see no reason it won't make peer reveiw.  I'll also be watching for it's release.   Read ;it and see what you think.

Monona



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From: Rupkey, Steve <00001179dcbb4345-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2020 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ASHRAE guidance on Reopening Schools and Universities

Yes, I'd like to see that study on MERV-15.
Thanks,
Steve
 
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU>
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 9:21 AM
To: "DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU" <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ASHRAE guidance on Reopening Schools and Universities
 
Monona-can you pls cite the study on MERV-15?  I'm having trouble finding it-
Many thanks,
Margaret 
 
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On Jul 7, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
All good advice except the MERV 13 filter recommendation.  A study now shows the bug goes through a properly installed MERV15.  So we are up to the full HEPA MERV 17 in our plans.  And that makes for a system upgrade in most facilities.  In a few cases, a shop with industrial dilution ventilation can be used -- which is even better..
 
We also, FYI, are finding that employers, if they really want to reopen, can find a way to test employees up to 3 times a week for COVID-19 (not antibodies, etc.)  And we now require level A personnel (those who can't distance or wear a mask due to the nature of their work) be tested three times a week.
 
Others get tested once a week.  And we are making it stick, Oh ye of little faith.  
Monona

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From: Stuart, Ralph <Ralph.Stuart**At_Symbol_Here**KEENE.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2020 8:28 am
Subject: [DCHAS-L] ASHRAE guidance on Reopening Schools and Universities
CHAS readers many be interested in the link to the ASHRAE guidance on reopening schools and universities at
It's a good review of basic concepts and best practices related to institutional ventilation systems, which many people are suddenly interested in.
 
The challenge I see in using this document is that the design basis for this document is to dilution of (chemical) pollutants to negligible levels. I'm not sure that dilution is a good approach for biohazards such as virus which can survive on surfaces for hours after it is introduced into a space. In the BSL-3 labs I have helped evaluate, direction of air flow was more important than number of air changes per hour.
 
- Ralph
 
 
Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
Environmental Safety Manager
Keene State College
603 358-2859
 
 
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