From: "Gmurczyk, Marta" <M_Gmurczyk**At_Symbol_Here**acs.org>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [EXT] Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video Series | ACS Matters | August 18, 2020
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 13:19:34 +0000
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Dear All:

What I always appreciate about our ACS safety community is that we lift each other and enable our mutual learning. We all have been working hard to educate, provide resources, build partnerships, understand, listen and suggest solutions to grow safety culture around us. If we want to grow people,  I think the feedback we deliver should teach and inspire, and research tells us that shaming and blaming are indicators or poor safety culture. Let walk our talk!  I am embracing this discussion as a teachable moment and I appreciate all off -line and on-line messages. I am in communication with my colleagues in charge of the newsletter.

 

Marta Gmurczyk

 

 

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Doug Cody
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [EXT] Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video Series | ACS Matters | August 18, 2020

 

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I couldn't agree more with Jim here. The ACS is supposed to show true leadership not Pooh Pooh something important. If indeed they actually performed any hazard analysis they would come to the conclusion Jim did. Shame on them. 

 

Doug Cody 

Farmingdale State

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On Aug 20, 2020, at 7:53 PM, James Kaufman <jim**At_Symbol_Here**labsafety.org> wrote:

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They are badly mistaken.

 

The young woman is holding a glass beaker.  If she drops it, she could have glass in her eyes. She should be wearing safety glass with side shields. 

 

Please ask them to reconsider.   ... Jim

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM Gmurczyk, Marta <M_Gmurczyk**At_Symbol_Here**acs.org> wrote:

Dear All:

 Thank you for this discussion. I have communicated with my colleagues in Communication and they assured me that they have discussed safety,  performed RAMP analysis and concluded that the risk of splashing is minimal, and concluded that  the image was appropriate to use. My colleague who directs our communication also wrote:

"As you know, we take safety very seriously and in this Untold series, the host does wear safety equipment when appropriate, but there are very limited experiments, so not a big production issue. In hindsight, we could have selected a better thumbnail for the ACS Matters article that wouldn't have given the misconception of a safety violation."

I obviously did not look carefully at the context before reacting despite the fact that we work hard here to reinforce risk management and critical thinking rather than just compliance with rules.  Good learning for me.

Again, I appreciate this discussion and support for ACS safety programs.

Marta




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From: "Wright, James" <James.Wright**At_Symbol_Here**nrel.gov>
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] [EXT] Re: [DCHAS-L] New Video Series | ACS Matters | August 18, 2020
Date: August 20, 2020 at 10:18:34 AM GMT-4


Good morning John,

It is interesting to me that the two safety professionals from UCLA (me the former ACHO and Chris Kolodziej the current CHO) looked up the source of the photo rather than assume. At UCLA we would do monthly PPE inspections. We were trained to ask questions first and to treat those inspections as a learning opportunity for the researcher and ourselves. I think this is an important lesson for safety professionals that context is important (as Margaret stated) and we can lose credibility with our researchers by jumping to conclusions.

--Jim Wright


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