From: ILPI Support <info**At_Symbol_Here**ILPI.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Glove Box Injury
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 22:03:53 -0500
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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A custom faceplate would not cost all that much compared to the cost of the box.  It's just a sheet of Lexan.  Any school with a machine shop should be able to make one quite easily by using the existing one as a template if the manufacturer was unwilling/unable to provide one.

Of course, if you put the arms too close together, then you have the same problem but for the folks with above average wingspan.  It's not like you interchange these on the fly.  I agree, what is really needed is some sort of system that would permit adjustment without taking the box apart, but I would imagine that is hard to engineer and maintain 2 ppm or less of oxygen.  Whoever coms up with it will patent it, no doubt.  Dibs.

I am leery of calling this a sexist design.  There are populations of people around the globe who are smaller than the average American, so is this design inherently racist, as well?  Let's call it what it is - ergonomic ignorance and design inertia.  This feedback needs to get back to the manufacturers.  If you want change to happen, have your University attorneys write them a letter and call it a negligent design.

Rob Toreki

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On Jan 26, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Debra M Decker <00001204b93f9a5e-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:

Hi All:
I heard from a colleague the other day about a repetitive motion injury she has sustained, working in a glove box for extended periods of time - 9-10 hours in some cases, multiple times a week.  Her PI, while he has high expectations, is supportive and empathetic to her.
Physical therapy has helped but that doesn't solve the root cause: this glove box and most glove boxes are designed for the standard male - 5'10"-6' tall with the attendant shoulder distance to be able to access the glove ports.  She's a very short woman with the attendant smaller distance across her shoulders.  Injury was inevitable.
There are a couple of issues here:
  1. She's a graduate student and currently covered under student health insurance and not workers comp.  This injury could result in life-altering health effects with no long term remedy.  Once again, graduate students are excluded from the protections of workers comp.
  2. Equipment designers ignore the fact that some 50% of the scientific work force are women.  Bespoke design isn't possible.  What's wrong with designing flexibility or adjustability into scientific equipment - particularly the big tickets?
I know I'm railing at the universe here but it's just more examples of how women scientists (and small men, for that matter) are generally ignored and how graduate students, doing the heavy lifting of discovery research, continue to be exploited to the point of injury.
Thanks for listening.
Debbie M. Decker, ACS Fellow
Programming Co-Chair
Chemistry Dept. Safety Manager (ret.)
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