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From: Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Glove permeation chart - not company
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:26:21 -0400
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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you also have to take into account the glove thickness, which could vary by brand. Some nitrile gloves are 4 mm, others 8 mm...

I don't think I would want a generic chart, so much depends on the mfg. And they have quite a bit of incentive to get it right...$$$$$

My two cents...

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 7:44 AM Zack Mansdorf <mansdorfz**At_Symbol_Here**bellsouth.net> wrote:
Nelson Schlatter (Ansell)

Zack Mansdorf

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On Sep 17, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Bruce Van Scoy <bvanscoy**At_Symbol_Here**twc.com> wrote:

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Caution: If you are going to be citing the NIOSH Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing for glove guidance - check when it was published, it is severely dated.

Monona is right, look at the individual glove manufacturer for testing permeation and degradation information. If you do a Google search, you=E2=80™ll end up with generic information that will be unreliable - depending upon which glove has been specified.

Suppliers and Google will provide generic "data" but nothing I would rely upon when you really need to confirm adequate protection.

It=E2=80™s late and I can't remember the name of the organic chemist who started the testing work at Ansell. He developed the first spreadsheet, which later turned into their database. When I ran into a new molecule that was going to be tested for toxicity as an investigational new drug, if he could not refer to a very close analog to provide protection, I could send him a sample and he would test to provide a recommendation. It depends upon what you are trying to protect against. Is a generic, possibly diluted level of protection adequate or are you trying to protect from a true hazard?

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Elliot Stein
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 7:23 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Glove permeation chart - not company

The Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing database is a contractor's product procured by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). Thus, the recommendations contained in this database do not necessarily reflect NIOSH policy.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ncpc/disclaimer.html

The Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing database is a contractor's product procured by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). Thus, the recommendations contained in this database do not necessarily reflect NIOSH policy.


From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of Jessica Martin <jessica.a.martin**At_Symbol_Here**UCONN.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:30 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Glove permeation chart - not company

Hi all,

I am looking for a chart of chemical permeation of different types of gloves - BUT I am trying to find one that isn't produced by a for-profit company.

Does anyone know if this exists? If so, link would be most helpful!

Thanks!

Best,

Jessica A. Martin, Ph.D.

NSF Graduate Research Fellow (2018-2021)

Joint Safety Team, Founding Member (2018-2021)

Pinkhassik Group, Department of Chemistry (2016-2021)

University of Connecticut

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