On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:26, Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU> wrote:

you also have to take into account the glove thickness, which could vary by brand.  Some nitrile gloves are 4 mm, others 8 mm...

I don't think I would want a generic chart, so much depends on the mfg.  And they have quite a bit of incentive to get it right...$$$$$

My two cents...

On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 7:44 AM Zack Mansdorf <mansdorfz**At_Symbol_Here**bellsouth.net> wrote:

Nelson Schlatter (Ansell)

Zack Mansdorf

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On Sep 17, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Bruce Van Scoy <bvanscoy**At_Symbol_Here**twc.com> wrote:

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Caution:  If you are going to be citing the NIOSH Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing for glove guidance - check when it was published, it is severely dated.

Monona is right, look at the individual glove manufacturer for testing permeation and degradation information.  If you do a Google search, you'll end up with generic information that will be unreliable - depending upon which glove has been specified. 

Suppliers and Google will provide generic "data" but nothing I would rely upon when you really need to confirm adequate protection. 

It's late and I can't remember the name of the organic chemist who started the testing work at Ansell.  He developed the first spreadsheet, which later turned into their database.  When I ran into a new molecule that was going to be tested for toxicity as an investigational new drug, if he could not refer to a very close analog to provide protection, I could send him a sample and he would test to provide a recommendation.  It depends upon what you are trying to protect against.  Is a generic, possibly diluted level of protection adequate or are you trying to protect from a true hazard?

 

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https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ncpc/default.html

Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing | NIOSH | CDC The Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing database is a contractor=E2=80™s product procured by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). Thus, the recommendations contained in this database do not necessarily reflect NIOSH policy. www.cdc.gov

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ncpc/disclaimer.html

 

Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing DIsclaimer | NIOSH | CDC The Recommendations for Chemical Protective Clothing database is a contractor=E2=80™s product procured by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). Thus, the recommendations contained in this database do not necessarily reflect NIOSH policy. www.cdc.gov

 

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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Glove permeation chart - not company

 

Hi all,

 

I am looking for a chart of chemical permeation of different types of gloves - BUT I am trying to find one that isn't produced by a for-profit company. 

 

Does anyone know if this exists? If so, link would be most helpful!

 

Thanks!

 

Best,

Jessica A. Martin, Ph.D.

NSF Graduate Research Fellow (2018-2021)

Joint Safety Team, Founding Member (2018-2021)

Pinkhassik Group, Department of Chemistry (2016-2021)

University of Connecticut

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