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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Achieving DEIR and Safety Awareness in a Chemistry Graduate Program: "Safety, Inclusivity, & Diversity Talks" ( "SID Talks") as Part of a Colloquium Series
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 14:16:03 -0500
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Not to mention the mental health near misses that will never be reported. I had a peer at MIT who told me she had it all planned out with stuff from her lab. Had to make her promise not to do anything without calling me, and spent a lot of time to see that she got help eventually. A few others self-medicated with alcohol.  Add in abusive (e.g. sexual) relationships, and all the other sorts of stuff like dysfunctional family dynamics, personal identity struggles, not so subtle discrimination etc. as a person is learning to live and function on their own and it blows your mind.

Graduate school is a microcosm of society, but with the pressure and temperature elevated by personal, familial, professional, and other external factors/expectations that are **invisible** and unknown to virtually everyone else. Most folks will never share these personalized challenges/issues except perhaps with a select person or two. So outreach like this offers a chance for those who struggle with (list goes here) an opportunity to know their situation/thoughts are not unusual, that they are not alone, and that others have found ways to work through it.

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On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Jack Reidy <jreidy2**At_Symbol_Here**STANFORD.EDU> wrote:

Imke, you make an excellent point regarding the emotional toll. No graduate students have died as a result of lab accidents while I've been at Stanford, either as a student or as staff. There have, however, been multiple graduate student suicides.
 
Jack Reidy (he/him)
Research Safety Specialist, Assistant Chemical Hygiene Officer
Environmental Health & Safety
Stanford University
484 Oak Road, Stanford, CA, 94305
Tel: (650) 497-7614
 
 
 
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Schroeder, Imke
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 10:24 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Achieving DEIR and Safety Awareness in a Chemistry Graduate Program: "Safety, Inclusivity, & Diversity Talks" ( "SID Talks") as Part of a Colloquium Series
 
Thank you for sharing Anthony.
Just adding on to the mention of the terrible incidents that occurred. When it comes to incident outcomes, we measure the fatalities, injuries and lost time. However, we do not measure/consider the mental emotional toll of the individual involved or that of their loved ones.
Imke
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Imke Schroeder, PhD, RBP (ABSA)
Research Project Manager
UC Center for Laboratory Safety
Safety Training Consortium Administrative Officer
Adjunct Associate Professor of Microbiology
UCLA
607 Charles E. Young Dr. East
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1569
Phone: (310) 794-5369
 
 

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