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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

Date: Jul 3, 2019 23:26 UTC

Author: Debbie M. Decker <dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

Date: Jul 4, 2019 02:01 UTC

Author: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

Date: Jul 4, 2019 01:52 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety

In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

Demystify: 

The Board here has let the teachers opt out of OSHA training with the union's backing.  The teachers complained that it was boring so it has been years since they were trained.  

I have seen a system that really worked.  It started in New Jersey in 1984 when the state passed it's "Right to Know" law and continued after the Fed hazcom was passed in 1987.  The NJ Public Employees OSHA (PEOSHA) took this law and ran with it.  They required a 4 hour training for all new hires and two hours every year thereafter.  And they certified the trainers.  You had to do your shtick with them observing before you could get a certificate to train.  They checked your test and they wanted to see the results. Those who failed the test and to take the training again.  And if they failed due to a language barrier. the school was required to either find a trainer who trained in their language or reassign them to jobs where there were no chemical products, even cleaners.

The training sessions were limited in size so that everyone's questions could be heard and answered by the trainer, and the content and quality was monitored.  You never knew when they would show up.   And they wrote wonderful data sheets on common chemicals to help provide good information since they realized the old MSDSs were s*t.

To illustrate how serious PEOSHA was about this, they found out Rutgers University had not trained their art and science teachers.  They shut down classes until every teacher was trained.  Two other certified trainers and I trained two sessions a day for several days to get everyone done so classes could reopen.

It was beautiful and it was making a real difference in the schools.  I could do a refresher training and start out talking about multiple synergistic exposures and they knew what I was talking about because they had passed a test on which this was one of the questions for several years.

Then NJ elected Governor Whitman (the same Whitman who became the head of EPA and told us the "air was safe" after 9/11).  She cut the training program to almost nothing and now Jersey has the same problems that New York does.

When I hear the song "Camelot" I think of those almost 10 years that this program was up and running and I saw the good that training could do.  So if you are on a Board of Ed, work to make training mandatory, relevant, require the teachers to pass a test each year, and keep records of those scores.  The teachers will only hate you until they get good at passing the tests and realize have learned something.  It works.

Safety is a science, too.

Monona


-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie M. Decker <dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Wed, Jul 3, 2019 8:05 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

By way of perspective -
 
I'm President of my local school board.  This sort of stuff keeps me up at night, as you might imagine.
 
Very early in my term on the Board (I've been on the board 2 and a half years), I championed a board statement on safety which supported policy already in place.  But it truly isn't enough.  I sit on the district safety committee which has representation from local fire and police, site administration and staff.  We recently had a lockdown incident (tuned out to be a hoax) which exercised the procedures in place and the district collaboration with fire and police.  All went well and the plan worked but there are some spots that need adjusting.  Thankfully, site administrators have been practicing their safety plans pretty comprehensively across the district.  But "safety" in the K-12 education context doesn't necessarily include science safety.
 
I'm currently working with the director of secondary education and one of the high school chemistry teachers to plan a half-day safety training for middle/high school science teachers before school starts this fall.  That=E2=80™s taken some doing to get traction and I'm grateful to the science teachers who have pushed the issue.  The teachers have had safety training over the years but it's been with a contractor and not particularly - engaging.
 
Because health and safety is my vocation and career, I feel I bear a particular burden to make sure training happens.  I also believe colleges of education bear responsibility here, too.  There just isn't anything in the credential curriculum that includes safety instruction for teachers seeking a credential in STEM.
 
I'm doing what I can but it seems a Sisyphean task.  I feel like once I get my local district in better shape, then it's on to the County Office and then to the state school boards association.  And I certainly don't feel supported, necessarily, from the health and safety community.  When have any of you offered your support and help to your local school district or - even better - your friendly neighborhood school board representative?  How  many of you have run for school board?  School boards need other voices, as Lynn points out below.
 
Thanks for listening,
Debbie
 
Debbie M. Decker, CCHO, ACS Fellow
Past Chair, Division of Chemical Health and Safety
Councilor and Programming Co-Chair
University of California, Davis
(530)754-7964
(530)304-6728
 
And -
 
President, Board of Trustees
Representative, Area 5
Woodland Joint Unified School District
Woodland, California
 
Birkett's hypothesis: "Any chemical reaction
that proceeds smoothly under normal conditions,
can proceed violently in the presence of an idiot."
 
 
 
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of paracelcusbombastusvon**At_Symbol_Here**juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:07 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
 
To begin I am not defending the BoE in any way. 
 
But as I read the account and numerous responses I thought I would take a look at the makeup and background of my local school board.  There are nine members whom are elected from various sub-districts.  Two had degrees in education and experience in general education one who has a PhD in education.  Three had degrees in social science or social work experience.  One is a prosecuting attorney.  One is an accountant (CPA). And one works as a business human resources/public relations.  The last did not list a biography. 
 
None had any science/safety experience noted in their bios. 
 
Most expressed concerns in "getting along with each other" and addressing "differences".
 
So much for STEM and safety.
 
Lynn Knudtson