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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

Date: Nov 3, 2022 13:24 UTC

Author: David C. Finster <dfinster**At_Symbol_Here**WITTENBERG.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

Date: Nov 3, 2022 14:49 UTC

Author: Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU>

From: Alex Hagen <fischera**At_Symbol_Here**UW.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

Date: Nov 3, 2022 13:52 UTC

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Demystify: 
Some of the departments on our campus have this policy. It is not a campus-wide policy and we (EHS) do offer fire extinguisher training for anyone who wants to take it. However, some departments have decided to make it their specific policy to not allow students to handle fire extinguishers. Instead, the students are instructed to simply pull the fire alarm and evacuate. My understanding is that this is to reduce the chances of them being injured due to using the extinguisher incorrectly or ineffectively. 

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Alex Hagen
University of Washington 

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of David C. Finster <dfinster**At_Symbol_Here**WITTENBERG.EDU>
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To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use
 

It has come to my attention (anecdotally) that some academic institutions, as a matter of local policy, forbid students to use fire extinguishers.  I am thinking more of research, than teaching, labs in this regard.  I think this is a wrong-headed policy since some small fires can be easily extinguished using fire extinguishers (usually ABC) that are required to be in labs.   Extinguishers are designed for use (using the PASS method) by untrained persons - although I would always argue for hands-on training.  I would not favor the policy that requires extinguisher use (as this could lead someone attempting to inappropriately fight a “too large” fire) but forbidding use seems foolish.

 

I ask the list:  1) How common (do you think) is the policy of forbidding use? and 2) what are the arguments for this “no use” policy?

 

Dave

 

 

David C. Finster
Professor Emeritus, Department of Chemistry
Wittenberg University

 

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