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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

Date: Nov 3, 2022 14:49 UTC

Author: Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

Date: Nov 3, 2022 14:59 UTC

Author: Jack Reidy <jreidy2**At_Symbol_Here**STANFORD.EDU>

From: Chance, Brandon <bchance**At_Symbol_Here**MAIL.SMU.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

Date: Nov 3, 2022 14:53 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>

Message-ID: <0E702131-CD76-437E-B675-C2D02D41A0A7**At_Symbol_Here**smu.edu>

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Demystify: 

At SMU we require all individuals working in hazardous labs to have fire extinguisher training.  We also have a program for RAs to have it during orientation.  For all others, a monthly class is offered, and people can take it if they want to.

 

We do highlight that you are never required to fight a fire and to ensure exit pathways and personal safety are of top priority.   The initial class is in person with a “BullEx” digital hands on portion.  Annual refreshers are provided online.

 

Regards,

 

Brandon S. Chance, MS, CCHO

Executive Director of Environmental Health and Safety

Southern Methodist University 

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of Alex Hagen <fischera**At_Symbol_Here**UW.EDU>
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Date: Thursday, November 3, 2022 at 9:33 AM
To: "DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU" <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

 

[EXTERNAL SENDER]

Some of the departments on our campus have this policy. It is not a campus-wide policy and we (EHS) do offer fire extinguisher training for anyone who wants to take it. However, some departments have decided to make it their specific policy to not allow students to handle fire extinguishers. Instead, the students are instructed to simply pull the fire alarm and evacuate. My understanding is that this is to reduce the chances of them being injured due to using the extinguisher incorrectly or ineffectively. 

 

Regards,

Alex Hagen

University of Washington 

 

ALEX HAGEN

Laboratory Safety Inspection Program Manager

Environmental Health & Safety Department

Research & Occupational Safety, Laboratory Safety Inspection Program

 

Hall Health  /  Box 354400  /  Seattle, WA 98195-4400

206.221.2339 / mobile 206.713.5267 / fax 206.616.3360

fischera**At_Symbol_Here**uw.edu / www.ehs.washington.edu

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of David C. Finster <dfinster**At_Symbol_Here**WITTENBERG.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 6:24:21 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher use

 

It has come to my attention (anecdotally) that some academic institutions, as a matter of local policy, forbid students to use fire extinguishers.  I am thinking more of research, than teaching, labs in this regard.  I think this is a wrong-headed policy since some small fires can be easily extinguished using fire extinguishers (usually ABC) that are required to be in labs.   Extinguishers are designed for use (using the PASS method) by untrained persons - although I would always argue for hands-on training.  I would not favor the policy that requires extinguisher use (as this could lead someone attempting to inappropriately fight a “too large” fire) but forbidding use seems foolish.

 

I ask the list:  1) How common (do you think) is the policy of forbidding use? and 2) what are the arguments for this “no use” policy?

 

Dave

 

 

David C. Finster
Professor Emeritus, Department of Chemistry
Wittenberg University

 

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