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I use this video in my laboratory safety class. It details the many uses of a fire blanket.
https://www.flinnsci.com/fire-blanket-use-in-the-school-laboratory/vsc0558/
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Subject: Re: [NAOSMM] Re: [DCHAS-L] How to Use a Fire Blanket – 9 Simple Steps
Our college's insurance provider has recommended that we get rid of the fire blankets due to inadequate training (chimney effect) but more so due to the fact that many fire blankets contain asbestos. Without dates of manufacture on the
blankets, it's difficult to determine whether the blankets contain asbestos or not.
Don't get rid of your fire blanket. Just don't wrap yourself in to put out the fire. And, change the directions on those older, long, vertical, fire blanket cabinets that instructed you to do just that.
As mentioned ... the chimney effect. In addition, it traps the heat and increases the chance of greater burns.
Fire blankets can be used for ...
2. Keeping warm and covering up after using the safety shower
3. Someone else using it on you while you are doing stop, drop, and roll
4. Keeping warm to prevent shock
6. A temporary modesty curtain for the safety shower with two colleagues holding the ends
7. The department picnic ... Jim
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If your clothing is on fire and you are wrapped in a blanket while standing, you are likely to become a chimney drawing air in at the bottom and pushing the fire higher on the body.
In response to Ralph’s observations, I would note that the article is clear in several places that it is recommending actions be done by “trained people” so this is not about use
by the untrained. Of course, it also ignores the problem of applying a9-step process in the midst of a crisis
And I would agree with Richard’s observation that most organizations have removed fire blankets entirely, generally in favor of “stop, drop, and roll” as easier to communicate to
the otherwise untrained, and rather effective and also avoiding the chimney problem.
Peter Zavon
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Hm. When attempting to use a fire blanket to put out a fire on a person, I was instructed to have them “stop, drop, and roll” first, then to try to smother the fire with the blanket.
I seem to recall that if you try to wrap a person in a fire blanket while they are standing (and on fire) that this actually causes other scarier problems. This is sort of a fuzzy memory now from a conversation had years ago with someone from a fire department,
so I welcome folks to either fill in the blanks or correct it.
Best,
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