I was not suggesting that we should not have a discussion at all, I am suggesting that the group looking at alternatives understands the value of the listserv and expects that many will want it to remain as
it is. Thus, we are looking at alternatives that will function like a listserv for those who prefer to work that way.
I don’t know how much value there would be in a discussion at this point until we can describe and demonstrate alternatives.
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Future of CHAS Listserve
With all due respect, DCHAS is a community and this does deserve discussion.
The listserv has been and very much continues to be a valuable resource in providing a general understanding of our industry’s general needs.
Its replacement must not be done in a vacuum AND should allow for discourse. I am frankly underwhelmed by the suggestion of “no discussion.”
-Kevin
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Subject: Re: EXTERNAL [DCHAS-L] Future of CHAS Listserve
Just to be clear…
- This was not intended to start a discussion about listservs. I mentioned an anticipated transition to a new system in the context of providing a resource
to CHAS Communities.
- The primary use of a new system will be for the full CHAS membership to communicate with each other.
- Any new system will have options to work just as a listserv does – you can send an email and respond by email, you can get a daily digest, etc. If you’re
like me and don’t want to have to log into a system to see messages, you will be fine.
- Listserv software is continuing, but it does not have some of the features we need moving forward. The fact that Princeton is looking to discontinue
support for it (which is a long way down the road) and the functionality that we find ourselves needing is why we are looking at this now.
I would prefer that we not continue this thread until the group working on this has a chance to complete their task.
I have been through transitions from listserv to other system where we’ve lost participants because it was too different. We are committed to ensuring that doesn’t happen.
Best,
Robin
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Robin M. Izzo, M.S., h’21
Assistant Vice President
Environmental Health and Safety
Princeton University
262 Alexander Street
609-258-6259 (office)
609-865-7156 (mobile)
Please visit the EHS website at
ehs.princeton.edu and the Emergency Management website at
emergency.princeton.edu
Celebrate 50 years with EHS at
ehs50.princeton.edu
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I second every word Rob Toreki wrote. Monona
On Jul 14, 2023, at 2:47 PM, Robin M. Izzo <rmizzo**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:
Listserv software is being phased out and not supported. We are planning ahead for this change, and will keep everyone posted.
Can’t we simply find a new university host for the listserv? We’ve switched a couple times in our history. Or switch another email list solution, of which there are dozens?
If we do move to a “community” web site/hub model there still needs to be some kind of email notification or digest. I suspect most people like myself simply do not have time to
go visit a site regularly (and then are lost to the community). One of the joys of DCHAS-L is that all sorts of random interesting topics pop up in my inbox and I can read or ignore them as time permits.
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