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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] School Incident with Dry Ice

Date: Feb 29, 2024 17:27 UTC

Author: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Storing ACS-grade acetic acid with ACS grade hydrochloric acid

Date: Feb 29, 2024 17:55 UTC

Author: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

From: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**RETIRED.APPSTATE.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Storing ACS-grade acetic acid with ACS grade hydrochloric acid

Date: Feb 29, 2024 17:38 UTC

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Demystify: 
Hey Margaret - This is the kind of question that I look to CAMEO to answer. When mixed in silico you get the following for 12M HCl and glacial acetic. Of course, in storage this would assume both bottle broke. Some want glacial stored in flammable cabinets.
Sammye

A caution icon. Reactivity Alerts

HYDROCHLORIC ACID, SOLUTION
  • Known Catalytic Activity

A caution icon. Hazard Predictions

ACETIC ACID, GLACIAL mixed with
HYDROCHLORIC ACID, SOLUTION

Incompatible (Red)



On 2/28/2024 8:49 PM, Margaret Rakas wrote:
Good evening--

The chemical compatibility charts I've reviewed indicate inorganic acids should be stored separately from organic acids.  This makes sense if a lab is storing a variety of both types.  We all know what happens with nitric acid and organic acids..

However, we're renovating a geology lab that uses mostly hydrochloric acid and occasionally uses acetic acid, both ACS grade (which are further diluted before using to digest rock or soil samples).  I have reviewed both Sigma and Fisher SDS's for these two materials, and it does not seem to me that storing several 500mL-1 Liter bottles of each together in a corrosives cabinet would be incompatible storage or create a safety risk.  Storing them with caustics, permanganates, oxidizing acids, metals--that would be a concern, but this lab doesn't use any of these incompatible reagents.

Thoughts?  Am I missing something?

Many thanks as always-
Margaret

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Lab Safety & Compliance Director
Clark Science Center
Smith College
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