Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:05:02 -0700
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From: Eric Clark <erclark**At_Symbol_Here**PH.LACOUNTY.GOV>
Subject: The Lab PPE Excuse List
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This was taken as a poll from the DCHAS listserve for PPE excuses from this discussion string: [DCHAS-L] 3 Re: [DCHAS-L] GLOVES IN STUDENT LABS I'm sure this is just a tip-of-the-iceberg list; send me some more and I'll keep the list going. Eric Clark, MS, CCHO, CHMM, Safety Officer Los Angeles County Public Health Lab Here's what we have so far: General PPE It is too hot to wear all of the PPE, Can I just wear this and this. Why are you always hassling me? Makeup/Food Then there are the people who apply lip balm because it is not make-up, which may not be applied in lab, and the people who maintain the cough drops are different from food, which may not be eaten in lab. I’m not eating - it’s Excedrin. Gees! Can’t even take medicine around here. Footwear Encountered repeatedly, comes from students who are wearing open-toed footwear: But, I'm wearing socks. I don't have any closed-toe shoes that go with this outfit. Safety goggles I can't breathe with something over my face. My dad mixes chemicals on the farm and he doesn't use them. That's a stupid rule. I can get head lice because someone else wore them. I have my splash goggles on - [he had them around his neck]. I was only watching the transfer operation. I am only in the area that I might be exposed for one minute. I just got a nose job and the doctor says I can't wear them (goggles). It'll mess up my hair. They’re all scratched up. They’re too expensive at the bookstore (so use one from the box of “house goggles”) I don’t want to get pink-eye. Lab aprons It's hot. My clothes are not that good. It's too big; it’s too long {that’s why we always have multiple sizes}. My dad mixes chemicals on the farm and he doesn't wear one. My friends will laugh at me because I look stupid. It's too hot to wear a lab coat. Gloves I have a latex allergy. My hands sweat too much. They don't fit. They will melt to my skin. I might get something inside them and then they won't help me. I can’t see well with them on (gloves). >>> List Moderator 3/9/2010 7:15 PM >>> From: ACTSNYC**At_Symbol_Here** Date: March 9, 2010 3:59:05 PM EST Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GLOVES IN STUDENT LABS Kim, I'd like to see the form. I've trained in England and have used their risk assessment matrix and wish we used it over here. And the nicest thing about their form is that you sign the bottom. So if a project goes forward, you are the person that is atesting that in your opinion the risk, with the precautions you have suggested is minimal. Monona Rossol == From: "Moorefield, Mubetcel" Date: March 9, 2010 4:09:04 PM EST Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] GLOVES IN STUDENT LABS While some of us are in process of lecturing to other people I would like to jump in and point out that what they say may also be incorrect. Here is an example: Is water hazardous? No? Well, try putting it on a water reactive material. I would like my comment also to be considered when hazard assessment for a chemical is made 1 trough 5. Since we don't purchase the chemicals to accessorize our labs, their hazard should be assessed depending on where they are used and where (next to which chemical) they are stored. Mubetcel == From: mtkleinm**At_Symbol_Here** Date: March 9, 2010 6:48:54 PM EST Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] GLOVES IN STUDENT LABS You might want to include PPG and waste disposal recommendations too. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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