Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:04:27 -0800
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From: "Matthew A. Pellow" <mpellow**At_Symbol_Here**STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: flammable cabinet question
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Hazards of self-closing doors -- not a figment of the imagination.

 From below:  "The major US manufacturers sell both manual and automatic 
door models."

On 11/8/2010 5:25 AM, Peifer, Patricia wrote:
> Yes!  We had an entire 4 L bottle of methylene chloride dropped and
> broken because of someone struggling with a self-closing door. I too
> prefer the doors which are not self closing. Like at your facility, we
> have not had problems with people leaving the doors open.
>
> Pat Peifer
>
> Health, Safety and Training Team Leader
>
> West Pharmaceutical Services
>
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> *From:* DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] *On Behalf
> Of *Yaeger, Mary Ann
> *Sent:* Friday, November 05, 2010 8:24 AM
> *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question
>
> We have had chemicals dropped a few times because of the self closing
> doors. Has anyone else had this problem? In trying to keep the door
> open, or not realizing how close the door is people have bumped the door
> pulling out the chemical and dropped the bottle. Our older cabinets are
> not self closing and we donít have a problem with the doors being left
> open. I prefer those that are not self closing.
>
> MaryAnn
>
> MaryAnn Yaeger, MS
>
> Supervisor of Laboratory Services,
>
> Chemical Hygiene Officer
>
> Wesley College
>
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> *From:* DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] *On Behalf
> Of *ILPI
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:53 PM
> *To:* DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question
>
> State and local codes will vary so you should consult your local or
> state fire marshal's office. For example, it is my understanding that
> California requires self-closing doors. The major US manufacturers sell
> both manual and automatic door models, so there is obviously no federal
> requirement.
>
> Given the obvious safety advantages of automatic door closers, the
> question should be why one would wish to defeat a safety feature that
> is, at best, a trivial annoyance. I strongly endorse their use whenever
> feasible.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Rob Toreki
>
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> On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Bradley, Shelly wrote:
>
> Are self-closing doors required on flammable cabinets? (Specifically
> those under fume hoods)
>
> If not, are there any restrictions on removing closers from flammable
> cabinet doors as long as the door latches?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shelly
>
> Shelly Bradley
> Instrumentation Specialist
> Laboratory Development Assistant
> Campus Chemical Compliance Director
> Chemistry Department
> Hendrix College
> Conway, AR 72032
> (501) 450-3812
> bradley**At_Symbol_Here**hendrix.edu 
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