Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 17:18:42 -0600
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From: "Cody, Regina J. (GSFC-6910)" <regina.j.cody**At_Symbol_Here**NASA.GOV>
Subject: Re: flammable cabinet question
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We have one self-closing door safety cabinet in our chemical storage building.  I have been slammed by the door enough times to be wary of it but luckily have not dropped anything, and it is a half size cabinet.   I do not regard this as a “trivial annoyance”.  The rest o f the cabinets have manual close doors, and we have not had problems with doo rs being left open.

I recently bought several safety cabinets, and I found that it is the state that mandates self closing doors.  Luckily, we were able to purchase ones with manual doors.

Regina Cody


Regina Cody

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Yes!  We had an entire 4 L bottle of methylene chloride dropped and broken because of someone struggling with a self-closing door.& nbsp; I too prefer the doors which are not self closing.  Like at your facil ity, we have not had problems with people leaving the doors open. 

Pat Peifer

Health, Safety and Training Team Leader

West Pharmaceutical Services

101 Gordon Drive

Lionville, PA  19342


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We have had chemicals dropped a few times because of the sel f closing doors.  Has anyone else had this problem?  In trying to k eep the door open, or not realizing how close the door is  people have bum ped the door pulling out the chemical and dropped the bottle.  Our older cabinets are not self closing and we don’t have a problem with the do ors being left open.  I prefer those that are not self closing.


MaryAnn Yaeger, MS

Supervisor of Laboratory Services,

Chemical Hygiene Officer

Wesley College

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State and local codes will vary so you should consult your local or state fire marshal's office.   For example, it is my understanding that California requires self-closing doors.  The major US manufacturers sell both manual and automatic door models, so there is obvio usly no federal requirement.

Given the obvious safety advantages of automatic door closers, the question should be why one would wish to defeat a safety featu re that is, at best, a trivial annoyance.  I strongly endorse their use whenever feasible.

Best wishes,

Rob Toreki

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On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Bradley, Shelly wrote:

Are self-closing doors required on flammable cabinets? (Specifically those unde r fume hoods)

If not, are there any restrictions on removing closers from flammable cabinet doors as long as the door latches?< /o:p>





Shelly Bradley
Instrumentation Specialist
Laboratory Development Assistant
Campus Chemical Compliance Director
Chemistry Department
Hendrix College

Conway, AR 72032
(501) 450-3812

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