From: Don Abramowitz <dabramow**At_Symbol_Here**BRYNMAWR.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] water aspirator - vacuum question
Date: December 4, 2012 2:03:22 PM EST
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Here's a recirculating waer aspirator, but at this price point, I'm not sure I see the point:

It's a:

Heidolph Recirculating Water Aspirator

Catalog # 09-548-161A

=09 Model B-169

Only $1,972,   I suspect you could make your own with a submersible pump, a bucket, and a hose with a T fitting, if you were so inclined.

Donald Abramowitz
Environmental Health & Safety Officer
Bryn Mawr College
Bryn Mawr, PA

This is a good question, one I have been thinking about for quite some time in our situation here.  One question I would like to add/ask.  Does anybody use a "water circulator" or some sort of water moving device, hooked up to a manifold, to accomplish a vacuum system for say 6 lines at a time? I'm thinking of general chem labs, where buchner filtration is done often.  We do not have house vacs (and never will), so I'm looking for a reliable way to accomplish using a water stream.  I understand that the water would then need to be tested or whatever to determine if it's hazardous or not.  I'm not worried about that end, I'm fine with that.  I'm just trying to minimize the water usage while having a reliable source of vacuum.

If you do use a water circulator, can you give me an item number or just the name of the device you use (so that I can search for it)???  I don't know what to look for, as I don't know what they are called.



On 12/4/2012 10:09 AM, Robin M. Izzo wrote:

1 - We no longer allow water aspirators.

2 - Not allowed.

3 - House vacuum or diaphragm pumps


We purchased diaphragm pumps to replace water aspirators as a sustainability measure. 




Robin M. Izzo, M.S.

Associate Director, EHS

Princeton University

609-258-6259 (office)


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~ Mark Twain 


From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of House, Katherine C.
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] water aspirator - vacuum question


I can only answer question number one: I have worked in pharma and in manufacturing chemistry QA and R&D labs over the past decade and have NEVER used a sink aspirator for filtering powders.  We always had a house vacuum or vacuum pump set-up for filtering.  I finished grad school four years ago and we never used a sink aspirator for filtering in my research lab.  We very rarely used them in the teaching labs.  I think both my graduate and undergraduate institutions are moving away from sink aspirators for a number of reasons: the waste issue you mention here, the potential for sink overflows, the ridiculous waste of water, and even the noise level when lots of students are using them in a large teaching lab.

I also agree with someone else's comment about Fisher or VWR.  If a google search doesn't turn up what I want right away, I usually call our Fisher rep and let him do the leg work for me.  He's never let me down.

Good luck, and do let us know if you come up with an effective response to the but-we've-always-done-it-that-way PhD chemists!


Katherine C. House, CCHO

Laboratory Coordinator

Chemical Hygiene Officer

Cormetech Environmental Technologies, Inc.

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim Auletta
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 8:27 AM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] water aspirator - vacuum question


I need the expert opinion of chemists working with 21st century ideas!


I was in a lab yesterday in Chemistry that is run by a PI older than the hills. His lab is filtering powders and solvents using the sink aspirator. All of the tygon tubing (both sides of vacuum & flasks) is discolored and shows signs of deterioration. They say this tubing is only looking that way because its really old. There was a flask for trap set up between the sample & the sink. I tried to explain that this set up may be allowing solvents to go into the water & down the drain. They tried in their best "I'm the seasoned PhD Chemist and you're not" voices to tell me it was ok and that there was no other way to do this and that everyone, including in industry, does it this way. Really? 


So - my questions to all of you enlightened chemists:

1. Do you still use the sink aspirator/vacuum?

2. If so, what kind of trap do you use to prevent solvent or other hazardous material (liquid & vapor) from going down the drain?

3. If you no longer use this filter/vacuum set up, what do you use?


thanks for your help!


Kim Gates Auletta

Laboratory Safety Specialist

Environmental Health & Safety

Stony Brook University

Stony Brook, NY 11794-6200


FAX: 631-632-9683


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