From: Dr Bob <drbob**At_Symbol_Here**FLOWSCIENCES.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Science Building- Things to Look Out For
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:06:19 +0000
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A great suggestion, Ralph!

 

Here’s an example of what may be the only serious challenge to your suggestion:

 

To most of us in CHAS, exhaust hoods are safety devices.

 

To those spending the project budget, this segment of a lab project represents a short term and a long term EXPENSE. This second group will take a very different view of the initial installed cost of hoods, the energy they “waste” through exhaust, and the potentially awkward building location for these devices. 

 

This is just one element of a larger issue involving well thought-out priorities of researchers and teachers compared to short term financial requirements to bring projects in on-budget. While practical research goals are crucial, they are almost always in danger of being trumped by money issues. Unless an approach is undertaken to resolve conflicts between parties with different priorities, we will be facing these very important issues fifty years from now!

 

I am confident this conflict can be addressed, but only if all parties sit together and do the work to resolve them. Exhaust energy conservation through new technologies is one example of where safety and expense actually may both be achieved if these issues are patiently addressed.

 

Luck may be good if planning includes all parties!

 

Dr. Bob Haugen

Director of Product and Technology Development

Flow Sciences, Inc.

 

910 332 4878

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Ralph Froehlich
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 11:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Science Building- Things to Look Out For

 

All:

 

Just a suggestion - no one has the time or focus to go through many lab upgrades, additions, new construction, or modifications in their careers, so it's always a learning experience when faced with such and opportunity(challenge). Why don't we put together a guidance document to make it easier for future safety-oriented chemists to approach these issues in a pro-active way?

 

It's obvious from the wealth of responses that we can provide guidance to avoid the major pitfalls awaiting our colleagues on future projects, even if new problems surface which they always do.


Ralph A. Froehlich, CIH, CSP, QEP
Helix Environmental, Inc. 
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On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Dr Bob <drbob**At_Symbol_Here**FLOWSCIENCES.COM> wrote:



Hi Melissa!

 

It is both amazing and stunning to me how our segment of the lab experience has found so many forces within our own sphere of influence working at such cross purposes.  I hope, Melissa,  awareness is truly the first step in resolution.  Good luck!!!

 

Dr. Bob Haugen

Director of Product and Technology Development

Flow Sciences, Inc.

 

910 332 4878

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Melissa Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 10:38 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] New Science Building- Things to Look Out For

 

What a fantastic wealth of responses! Thank you so much everyone. Now I just have to process everything and make an action list.. . . :)

 

On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Melissa Anderson <mwanderson08**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

 

We're in the planning process for a new science building (we're a two-year community college with a strong STEM reputation and a very small informal undergrad research program). Does anyone have any lessons learned or other recommendations as we start working with the architects when it comes to planning out our chemistry labs?

 

Thanks!

 

Melissa Anderson

Chemistry Instructor

Pasadena City College

 

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