From: Peter Zavon <pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Thoughts?
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 18:18:05 -0400
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
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Part of the solution depends on where the researcher and the institution is located. For example, if on a California state university campus, the available pressures to be brought to bear from state regulators as well as university administration and department chairs may be notably more than would be available from a private university in another state. Of course, first, someone (a safety professional??) needs to elevate the issue to those higher administrative levels, or file a complaint with a regulator who has some real clout.

 

The alternative method would be a friendly and extended effort to bring the researcher around to a more suitable frame of mind. But it almost sounds from the initial posting as if those efforts have already been seen as failures.

 

 

Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**Rochester.rr.com

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of TILAK CHANDRA
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 4:00 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Thoughts?

 

Hi:

I believe you need to change the behavior of this researcher/PI; unsafe to safe behavior.  It can be difficult, nevertheless possible.

 

Good luck.

 

Tilak

Tilak Chandra, Ph.D.

Chemical Safety Specialist

UW-Madison

tilak.chandra**At_Symbol_Here**wisc.edu

Ph. 608-890-0255

       608-622-9761 (Cell)

 

"--our job in safety is to make the task happen, SAFELY; not to interfere with the work-" Neal Langerman

 

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Tiffany Freedman
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 2:26 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Thoughts?

 

 

Good afternoon all!

 

I know as safety professionals we've all faced some very interesting situations, but I was curious as to everyone's thoughts on a situation similar to the one below. 

 

How did you approach the situation?  What did you try that worked?  What did you try that maybe didn't work as well as you had hoped? Maybe the problem wasn't completely solved but it improved? Did you have to reach out for assistance?  I know we all have different environments and experiences and it's these differences that make our shared experiences invaluable.

 

Situation:

 

A renowned researcher is bringing in large sums of funding and greatly adding to the prestige of a facility/institution.  This individual, however, has repeatedly demonstrated a disregard for safety. Others in the group are aware of this but are reluctant to comment.  They wonder how/why this individual can continue operating in this manner.

 

Thanks so much for your thoughts! 

 

Regards,

Tiffany

 

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